On 5/25/2021 8:30 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 5/24/2021 10:31 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote:
On 5/23/2021 7:41 PM, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-23, Clare Snyder wrote:
There's a saying that goes something like this:
" Your right to behave like an asshole stops where the rights of
others begin"
Anti vaxxers and other right wing libertarians need to take it to
heart.

No, it is leftist morons who need to take it to heart. You have no right
to demand that anyone be subjected to medical experimentation via
"vaccines"
that have had no long-term testing and are not even FDA approved. That is
YOU swinging YOUR arms/fists into others' noses making such demands.
You have
absolutely no right to demand anyone to take *any* kind of medication
or to
relegate "refuseniks" to 2nd-class status.

Vaccine "passports" (actually Soviet-style internal passports) are
unlikely to survive a court challenge in the U.S., given the strong
history of legislation and court deicisions in favor of medical privacy
and forbidding such discrimination on that basis. Even the Left's most
holy of holies - Roe v. Wade - was decided on the basis of medical
privacy.

I will not be vaccinated any time soon. I will not cooperate with vaccine
"passports".


Do yourself a favor and learn a little history about how and why the
U.S. got our smallpox cases down to zero. Learn about the history of
mandatory smallpox vaccination in the U.S. Learn about the PHS 731 (the
"yellow card"), how it was implemented and why it was required (as a
"vaccine passport") to travel internationally for decades. Don't be so
certain that the Federal government couldn't impose new vaccination and
vaccination documentation requirements. And, just for your information,
the rate of serious side effects and even deaths from smallpox
immunization was far higher than what's been found for any of the
currently used 3 anti-COVID vaccines.

As far as being experimental, you are certainly correct from an ethical
perspective. Even our military, which does impose mandatory vaccination
for active duty personnel for many infectious diseases has not done so
for the anti-COIVD vaccines. At least not yet. I have read several
opinions from experts in medical-legal matters that the issue of the
legality of mandating vaccination with an experimental vaccine is not
settled law and therefore, how courts would rule is currently
indeterminate.

Pfizer has recently submitted a full licensing data package to the
FDA and the other two are expected to follow soon when they accumulate
the required set of 6-month minimum follow-up data. Time from
submission to full licensing by the FDA usually requires several months.
At this time, nothing has appeared in the data to suggest that
ultimately any of the 3 currently used vaccines will not be fully licensed.
I will wait a few years before I take any new "vaccine." Side effects
will be reported during MY waiting period. I want to know how it
effects a lot of people before I'll be willing to take a covid vaccine.
My immune system fights off viruses just fine and has done so for over
6 decades.


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Maggie


Cite for us any vaccines where side effects did not show up until years later.
We have tens of thousands vaccinated now for over 6 months, millions for
over 5 months. You're a coward, enjoying the benefit of the 170 mil Americans
who have been vaccinated, while refusing to take the infinitesimal risk of
some adverse, long term side effect.



I enjoy the benefit of watching and learning from other people's bad
decisions.


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Maggie