On Thu, 20 May 2021 19:19:07 +0100, Joel wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote:

It was caused by severe negligence - unsanitary conditions in wet meat markets. If a company accidentally outputs a load of nuclear waste and kills millions of people, they would be held accountable.

"There are only two ways it was released: by accident due to incompetence at Wuhan Lab or the CCP had the virus weaponized and released on purpose. Of course this would be construed as an act of war, an act of economic warfare. Either way the CCP is responsible for the release of COVID-19 virus and damages incurred.
When I make a mistake and my mistake causes damages to another party, I have a responsibility to pay for those damages. Why then is no one asking for damages from the CCP?"

It appears that China did play down the virus in some ways for a
period of time, and that may have cost the rest of the world a
potential advantage early in the fight. But we are getting it under
control, we know how to fight it, we're committed to the fight, and
President Biden among others around the world can and will provide the
support for the effort it will take. It's a global problem, but we
know what we have to do to deal with it throughout the world.

What we need to do is bill China for creating it in the first place. Unhygienic meat markets = millions of deaths worldwide. If a private company accidentally killed millions, they would be held accountable.


And what makes you think the virus wouldn't have found another way to
spread, if not for the meat market? There were things China did
wrong, early on, but they didn't create the virus. It does seem
linked to the meat market, sure, but it didn't evolve there. Let's
not pretend that China is more guilty than they are - they do a lot of
bad things, they abuse people's rights, they didn't act entirely in
good faith about the virus, and we should call them out on such
things. But this pandemic was something the world would have to face,
it isn't relevant which country it came from.

But since it was most likely from the lab.....

Everyone knows it came from the lab. China refuses to cooperate enough with WHO or anyone else to provide the proof. China has actively destroyed any such proof and failed to cooperate with WHO because it fears the forensic science that could find what they think they have covered so well. So, there will be no definitive proof but that does not mean the truth is not known. The world will have to settle for that unfortunately. Here are two facts that may enlighten what really probably happened. I stress, these are facts.

Fact 1) Dr. Shi, Chinas €˜Bat Woman, took one of her many bat coronaviruses and visited the University of North Carolina in 2014. The head of the virology department at this time there was Dr.. Ralph Baric-the worlds leading authority on virus €˜gain of function. That is a nice way of saying he knew how to mutate a virus that did not like humans into something very lethal that did like people. The Wuhan Lab paid for this visit through a grant to the UNC.

The goal was to make Dr. Shis virus lethal to human lung tissue and they ran an experiment to do that. They succeeded and Dr. Shi and Dr. Baric co authored a scientific paper announcing their success. That was published in 2015 in the prestigious journal, Nature. This is the link to the full , unedited,paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985 and verifies what they were trying to do and how they did it and how they were successful. It also talks about the €˜ethics,or lack thereof, of what they did. At the end of the study, Dr. Shi takes her €˜lethal bat corona virus back to Wuhan Lab.

That is all fact. The information is so embedded in the net that the CCP could not go back and erase it. The only fact you have to concern yourself with is that according to these irreproachable sources, Dr. Shi had a human lung eating bat coronavirus-verified in her lab- in 2015.

Fact 2) China sucks at containing lethal viruses and the Wuhan Lab was sited many times on its lack of sufficiently trained personnel to maintain the high levels of maintenance and security needed to contain biohazards of this magnitude. Beijing lab released the SARS virus twice. Here is the source for that: https://genomebiology.biomedcentral....ht-20040427-03 as well as a recent leak at a vaccine facility that sickened 3000 people with Brucellosis: https://globalnews.ca/news/7341054/c...a-brucellosis/

So, though no €˜hard evidence, we do have verified proof of the Wuhan Lab housing a deadly lung eating bat coronavirus and a track record of these labs not being reliable in containing these lethal organisms. And lastly, we have a pandemic that started in the very city of Wuhan. And wouldnt you know it. It is caused by a human lung eating bat coronavirus. How interesting.

Now, the CCP has launched new media efforts trying to deflect that the virus started in Wuhan. The reason is obvious as I have shown you. They seem to cite studies showing evidence of the virus being in other countries earlier in December. You see there is that word again-evidence. The other countries did not destroy their samples and by tracing back they can see the virus spread faster and further out of Wuhan than anyone would have thought. They only thing, there is no €˜back looking at the Chinese population €˜samples to see if there is (and there is) any indication that it was running there long before December.

Also, here is the lastest call from MIT scientists to do a real investigation.
https://www.technologyreview.com/202...ogists-letter/