On Sun, 23 May 2021 03:17:43 +1000, "Joey" wrote:



"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
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On 5/21/2021 11:25 PM, Joey wrote:





I priced a hidden-fastner metal roof install and it was twice the cost
of the GAF Timberline shingles. Guess which I chose.


Did the same about 20 years ago. Made no sense to spend that much more.

Corse it does when it lasts much longer.
Mine is just as good as it was when new,
now 50 years later.

Same with bricks instead of the stupid
timber you fools use for the walls too.

Bricks were not readily available in many parts of the country.

Only because you fools do your houses using
cheap and nasty timber and sidings. And even
you should have noticed that the timber and
sidings don’t actually come from some forest
down the road. Iron ore mine in spades.

If you look at much of the northeast from Boston to Virginia there are a
lot of brick homes. You need clay and kilns to make them.

Everyone has some clay not too far away.


No, many areas have NO clay within a reasonable distance - and when
forested land was cut to provide farm land there was lots of timber
litterally at the doorstep. Many houses were built from chestnut,
walnut, maple, birch, ironwood etc where those were the predominant
species. In other areas they were built of sprice and pine and hemlock
and fir.

Today that is less common - with spruce and pine, commercially grown
and cut, shipped in from across the country. Still cheaper than
shipping bricks - and less loss from shipping damage.

Many bricks today are "fired" or autoclaved concrete - where clay is
not common various aggregates (including recycled concrete) can be
used

Not readily available in other places

BULL**** with the clay and even you should
be able to work out how to make a kiln.

so they use what they could get,

Bull**** they do with timber, sidings, stupid shingles etc etc etc.

Just as adobe and igloos, you build with what you have.

You don’t have timber, metal, shingles etc, stupid. You move
them from where they happen to be to where you need them.

Tad radical I realise.

The homes I grew up in were built with locally produced soft yellow
clay brick - produced less than 10 miles from where the houses were
built - and locally harvested yellow pine and cedar. (double brick -
lath and plaster finish on the inside - timber framed interior
partitions, floors, and roof structure) My uncles home out on the
sakatchewan prairie on the other hand was built of lumber shipped in
by rail from out of province as timber, clay, and gravel aggregate are
and were extremely scarce out there.
These were houses built between 1870 and 1942.

The home I have lived in for the last 40 years the brick veneer is
autoclaved concrete brick manufacturde one city away - less than 30
miles. The original shingles were manufactured less than 100 miles
away. The lumber was shipped by rail or truck across the province -
about 300 miles or less away. The aluminum siding was also produced
(from sheet) less than 150 miles away. It was built in 1974.

These distances would all be considered pretty much "local" by
Australian standards, no????