On Fri, 21 May 2021 08:02:48 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/21/2021 12:19 AM, wrote:

None of those things are insurmountable. Home chargers are $1000 to
$2000. Not all that much to add to the loan for a $50k truck. It does
not take all night to charge a truck if you do it on a regular basis.
How many miles will the average person drive a day? A couple of hours
and you are topped up.

If those trucks are used like trucks, that 300 mile range is a
fantasy. Hook that 10,000 pound trailer, they brag about, on it and
drive it around all day in the winter with a 5000 watt heater going.
See how you do then. That also assumes they are not using the power
ports as a job site generator.
Maybe I am used to work trucks.
They may think everyone is just going to buy big tires, shine their
truck up, cruise around and try to impress the cow girls.

Look around at the supermarket parking lot. Thousand of trucks never
haul more than two bags of groceries. They never travel more than 20
miles from home. There is a big market for that. Every EV that
replaces a gas or diesel stretches the finite supply of oil.

I know what you are saying but that is just a fad and I expect the
pickup truck thing to go the way of the "van" fad.
I was talking about those who need a truck to haul big boats, RVs or
those who work in the construction/maintenance business.



The only reason the automobile was successful was the fact that there
were already 50,000 gas stations right? It took 100 years to get to
that point and the infrastructure has to change. Airports did not exist
in 1903 but they invented the airplane anyway.

The big difference is gasoline was a waste product from the production
of kerosene, a glut on the dry cleaning market and there was already
an infrastructure for distributing kerosene. Rockefeller was pretty
fast to expand that into a national network of gas stations. Cars were
also a totally new thing so the gasoline infrastructure had plenty of
time to evolve.

These EVs are coming fast and I am not sure if the grid is up to the
task. That is particularly true in places like California and the
Northeast where the grid is already straining.


No the grid is not up to it. Will it ever be if not pushed into it? CA
can't even keep the lights on at night so this is what will push them to
act now, not 40 years when too late.

What is your plan for 50 years from now? How do we fuel ships and
airplanes? How about all those homes heated with NG or oil?

50 years from now?
I don't buy green bananas ;-)

Realistically energy is always going to be an issue and until we start
working on nuke plants that are acceptable to the masses it will
continue to be a problem. The biggest problem right now is
distribution and the people who need new transmission lines the most
are the ones least likely to want one in their back yard.
We transitioned a lot of abandoned rail lines to electric and internet
fiber right of way and now the tree huggers want the rails back.
Nobody is going to be willing to give up land in populated places for
either of those in the quantity that is needed.