"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
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On 5/21/2021 8:24 AM, Frank wrote:

I have no problem with EV's and think they have their place.

What I do have a problem with is government mandating them and
subsidizing them. A huge infrastructure change is required and pushing
it will cause a mess.

Also with government, it is usually one size fits all. For example Japan
and California will not allow gas powered cars in the future but driving
distances in Japan may only be a quarter of what is needed in California.

Some people need to travel long distances to do things in states like
Montana.

Then I read that 17% of the people in the US live in apartments and
condos. How will they charge their vehicles except at charging stations?
There are also those in townhouses and those without garages.

I could go on, but you get my point.

I agree, but the answer it not to do nothing.

No one that matters is suggesting anything of the sort.

The issue has to be pushed

It is stupid to do it that way.

and consumer demand will give the push.

Bet it doesnt.

Near me there are a couple of apartment complexes going up. Like 300
units. I don't see any car chargers. If I was the developer I'd put in a
couple somewhere to attract the EV owners.

I'd let them install and pay for them myself if they want that.

You bring up range, one reason I don't have an electric. I've not tracked
it but I do recall some rather prohibitive ranges, like the Chevy Volt at
32 miles. Now some cars have 300 miles. What does the future hold?

Only stupid prices for the long ranges and fast charging
****ing the life of the already stupidly expensive battery.

Look at the auto industry over the past 100+ years. It will take a long
time but range and cost can be improved,

But will still be a lot worse than an ICE.

batteries are getting better

But will still be a stupid price for the sort of range
any ICE can do. In spades with refuel time.

and new one soon will not use lithium.

That remains to be seen.

You and I won't see it but our grandkids will be dealing with it as oil
becomes scarce and expensive.

Much more likely that countries will get a clue
and use nukes to heat houses etc without any
of the downsides that stupid EVs have.

I bet Charles Duryea had no idea what his car would evolve to.

Doesnt mean that EVs will do anything like that
given that all but batteries are well evolved now.