On Mon, 17 May 2021 04:47:20 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

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It's funny how many people adopt something
that might initially just come to hand and then use permanently.

Yeah, tho that's the only thing that I can think of that I have done that
with.

What about various containers, ex food pots etc?

I do have a few of those bigger colored kitchen cutting boards
that you can see the green one under that ex book cover but
they arent ideal in the summer with bare legs with shorts.

No, I bet not. I have used those (the nylonny ones) for all sorts of
things where I want a stiff but flexible material. The last time was a
backing plate on a dinghy trailer. ;-)

The Mrs uses her mouse on a mat on a heap of books (that were
already there on a shelf by the arm of the chair where she sits) as
that's where we first tried it when I set it up for her years ago. It's
just 'convenient and works so she carries on using it like that.

I have been looking for some form of stand for the keyboard
that I can do a few keystrokes on with my left hand when I don't
need to put the keyboard on that ex book cover to type stuff
like this post and have found some that clamp onto the arm
of a chair for the keyboard and mouse. Not ideal for me tho.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32907768187.html?

Yeah, the problem with that sort of thing is that they move. Ok that
you can move them into place but once in place they sorta need to be
solid.

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Unlikely, think it was published before
computer mice had been invented :-(

;-)

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Depth of the fibres then possibly?

Likely I spose. While its constant color, not patterned, the
fibers are much deeper than normal cloth or the sweat top.

That's what I was thinking, 'depth' of the surface etc.

Not just the color either I have dark brown and mid blue
fleeces and they both have the same bad result, not just
erratic tracking, the cursor doesn't move at all.

You would think they would do *something*?

But that mouse does track fine on that green cutting
board that's under the ex book cover in the photo.

Mine doesn't like front of a CD. ;-)

Most of the things you say it does work on have 'a grain' or
weave, I don't think the outside surface of a fleece does?

There is a clear pattern.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h7u38bh1mn..._2882.jpg?dl=0

Yeah, a fairly deep 'pile'.

Or, I wonder if it's the fact that fleeces are made from plastic
(often re-cycled I believe) so may be transparent / translucent
(like fibre optics) and so confuse the detection system?

Yeah, could be that I insist on cotton for all except fleeces.

What about a micro fleece OOI? I have some Stanley branded uFleece
tops that are much finer? My M720 works fine on mine.

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Then I measured the battery and it was down to 1V!
Of all the times that the battery might go flat ... ;-(

Yeah, it clearly chose to shaft you when you perved at its inners.

I think you are right!

Logitech clearly keep redesigning stuff all the time, you
never can just buy another after the click fault shows up.

Tho I noticed that the K800 keyboard has been around
for much longer than usual and still is available.

That *is* unusual as they often seem to stop making the good stuff.
;-(

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Yeah, I have stopped buying their top of the line mice,
stupid prices. I still buy the K800 keyboard because its
the only way I can get keys that don't wear off, it's a backlit
keyboard with proper double injection moulded two types
of plastic with a led inside which doesn't wear out the letters.

I think I was pointed toward a 'two part' (injection moulded) key top
as that meant the characters went right though the plastic, like the
letters on a stick of rock.

The backlight is handy too, I do a lot of computing at night.

Is that still cordless and what sort of battery life do you get out of
it?

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For me it was a MS branded corded mouse optical (probably Logitech)?

I do have a corded Microsoft Intellimouse optical which is still fine.

That was it, 'Intellimouse'.

That is what I was using before changing to cordless mice so it
only got used for a couple of years.

I have often repaired the cord if the mouse is still generally ok
(often by shortening it) but the feet had also gone on mine so it was
a bit too far gone.

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Only time would tell, unless they specifically state it
deals with that problem and I doubt they would do that.

No they don't and they never admit it's a known problem
when you do a warranty claim, just don't quibble at all.

I wonder if then it IS cheaper for them to do that rather than get the
bad 'they all do that and they still haven't fixed it' press? If you
get a new / free one you are less likely to blog about it negatively
etc (possibly the exact opposite). They still go wrong but give you a
new one (where other makes may not go wrong in the same timescale
etc)?

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But those microswitches have always been available on ebay

Oh, as a generic switch

Yep. Not made by logitech either.

or something 'special' to those mice?

Nope.

That's good then as the chances are they would be cheaper.

so its clear plenty do have that problem and
logitech never quibbles with a warranty claim.

Given what they cost and what they probably cost to make, not
a biggie for them, certainly when compared to the bad publicity.

Yeah, they don't seem to care about the publicity.

I guess it's all down to the numbers (and what others you could get)?

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I think part of the reason I never learned to touch type is because
I was rarely in front of the same keyboard and often (as a field
support tech) the keyboard was on the floor, on top of a cabinet,
pile of kit or on my knee (as it is now).

I learn to touch type in school when my dad brought back
a course on records from a trip to the USA.

What, an 'audio course' in vinyl format (rather than on cassette or CD
etc)?

No one could
read my writing in school.

You should have been a doctor then. ;-)

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[1] I have most of them numbered and in a document on
Google docs with an overview of the content of each stored.

Yeah, I have a proper Access database.

I did look briefly for a simple app but didn't find one at the time.

So I can search the file and it will give me any hits for that thing.
What I want to do next (with help from my new Brother label
printer adding labels to the inside of the lid) is also take and
store a picture of the content of each box so I don't need to
input so much detail on the boxes containing a greater mix
of the smaller items.

Yeah, must do that myself. I mostly use those big square
plastic mini sets of drawers that are intended for storing
paper in. I get them for peanuts at garage sales.
https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/...ack-owdd105pbk

They are a good idea (for small bits) as they are quite shallow so you
don't have to dig about for stuff. I bought some (2 x 6 drawer sets)
larger but not-so-deep draws that will take stuff like my hot glue
gun, DMM's or 3D printer spares and slowly sorting stuff into those. I
need to try to only use those for things I use regularly and leave the
less regularly accessed stuff for less easy access storage.

Cheers, T i m