In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 11 May 2021 18:31:23 -0700, Bob F
wrote:

On 5/11/2021 6:14 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 10 May 2021 22:12:08 -0400, Ed Pawlowski
wrote:

On 5/10/2021 5:25 PM, micky wrote:
OT The secret vote on Liz Cheney this week, is that secret from
everyone? Even McConnell?


Secret votes are for people that lack courage to say what they really
think. That includes many of the voters in this case. They are afraid
to buck the lost leader.


More about Liz,

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/11/u...be15405153fe2f

Ms. Cheney, who is facing a vote Wednesday morning that is almost
certain to succeed in ousting her from House Republicans’ No. 3 post,
declared on Tuesday that the nation was facing a “never seen before”
threat in a former president who provoked the Jan. 6 Capitol attack and
who “has resumed his aggressive effort to convince Americans that the
election was stolen from him.”

“Remaining silent and ignoring the lie emboldens the liar,” Ms. Cheney
said. “I will not participate in that. I will not sit back and watch in
silence, while others lead our party down a path that abandons the rule
of law and joins the former president’s crusade to undermine our
democracy.”

I just heard her say this, on the radio, and I hate to say it but when I
read it and said it in my head, it sounded better. More convincing.

She doesn't have a strong voice. (although if she got this far, I
suppose voters and Reps didn't judge against her for that.)

The Wyoming Republican’s remarkable broadside illustrated her
unrepentant response to the effort to dethrone her. She has cast her
almost certain expulsion from the leadership ranks as a “turning point”
for her party and told allies that the leadership post is simply not
worth having if it requires her to lie.


If it's a secret vote, she will probably survive it, just like the last
such vote. Many Repub politicians know she is right. They would only
vote to remove her if they are worried about trump voters finding out.

I heard after I first posted that there was a meeting in advance, whhere
people will talk and surely disclose how they are (as far as others are
concerned**) planning to vote. But iiuc all 210 or so Reps. get to vote
and they won't all have time to talk

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/05/04/p...ner/index.html
"At the special meeting [May 12], the members can then bring up a
resolution to remove Cheney. If two-thirds of the conference -- 142
members -- want, they can immediately vote. Otherwise, the petition
would be referred to a committee that can then either report the
petition to the conference for a full vote or kill the resolution.
Any leadership vote is a secret ballot cast behind closed doors. "

So it could just be sent to committee! but no one thinks that's going
to happen. So the vote apparently is as secret as the last time. And
the pundits on both side think the vote will go the other way from last
time? What's changed? She's still right. Are there no young
republicans who wouldn't be given time to speak anyhow? I guess there
are but she needs 50% of the vote (more or less depending on whether the
vote is about whether to fire her or to retain her.)

So she needs 106 o 107 votes or so.


**Not that anyone would pretend to be on one side and vote the other
way. No one would ever do that.