On Mon, 10 May 2021 07:28:12 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 2:05:49 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 09 May 2021 13:05:37 -0400, micky
wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 08 May 2021 20:37:56 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 8 May 2021 18:50:21 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/8/2021 4:12 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2021 14:22:58 -0400, micky
wrote:

**Apparently if vaccinated, there's almost no chance of dying even if
you're in the 6%, and on average you will get less sick, but I don't
know how much. I haven't seen details about that, except I just read the
paragraph above.

When are you folks going to admit we have fallen for hysteria?

If you are just going to get a little cold that you get over why are
we still being silly about this? The vaccine is available for anyone
who wants it and if they are waiting for Jesus to tell them to get it
they will meet him soon enough .... or not. We still don't have any
good numbers about how many people have acquired immunity from having
a mild case and getting over it. It is very likely they never got
tested so they are not in the stats.
Fauci predicted that might be 80% of those infected.


So what is happening in India is just hysteria? Seems sensible to take
some precautions until we know what is happening. Seems to be on the
right path but could stall if people refuse vaccinations.

At a certain point we can let Darwin decide. The vaccine is out there,
they keep saying it works, at a certain point it is like wearing a
motorcycle helmet. If these people are willing to duck the protection
available, they deserve what they get.

So everyone in your family has been fully vaccinated?

Yes

All your friends?

Yes
And if not, and someone dies it's his fault?
Yes, if they chose not to avail themselves of the vaccine. It is just
walk in and get your shot here. There is no excuse not to, assuming
it is as safe as you folks say.
That's how you regard your
family and friends?
Not relevant is it?

And you missed the entire point of my OP. Unvaccinated people endanger
the rest of us.
OK then you shouldn't care so much if they get sick and die then
should you. You think they are a menace.
The reality is the hysteria is not reflected in the results. Florida

Oh, yes, you scientific sage. There will be no more outbreaks because
50% of Florida is vaccinated!
I doubt we will ever get anywhere close to 100% or even 80% but you
think they are all going to get sick and die so it is a self limiting
problem.
OTOH we still do not have a clue how many people have acquired
immunity from a mild case that cured "spontaneously" as Fauci
describes it and he said that might be 80% of the people who got
infected.

Do you understand the meaning of 94% effective? How 94 differs from
100? What per CENT means?
I also know that is just a conservative guess and the real number is
now being hyped as higher (more effective). You folks really need to
make up your mind. Is the vaccine the silver bullet or is it just a
placebo?
You seem to change your opinion depending on the conversation.

No, Micky's right. You have a comprehension problem. You can't deal
with situations where something is 90%, 95% effective. You start making
posts here, claiming that if something isn't 100%, then it must be no good.

I am saying it is good enough, let's go.

I seem to trust it more than you.
You are the one saying it is not 100% so we can't restart our lives
yet.