On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 11:07:08 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 04:30:34 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
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On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 12:02:46 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 09:53:27 +1000, "Rod Speed"
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 12:10:12 -0400, Ralph Mowery
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Once everyone is vaccinated who wants to be, why are we not "lettn ur
rip"?
Let Darwin decide who dies.

The original story was we wanted to limit infection to prevent
overloading hospitals
We are there and have been for quite a while in the US.

Then it was we need to build herd immunity.
Between the vaccine and natural cases, we are about as close as we
will get. They can't fill all the vaccine slots they have now. Anyone
who wants the shot can get it.

Masks have gone from "the general public doesn't need a mask" to "Wear
2". The CDC has finally relaxed the rule and said if you are outside,
all alone, you don't need one. (like people outside all alone ever
needed one)


I am with you. Give it a couple of months and when everyone has a
chance go get vccanated, go back to normal and let Darwin decide.

There was an artical in the local paper about having shots that are not
being used because of no takers.

Most of the pandemic 'rules' remind me of what a supervisor at work said
one time. I what I say may not be correct , but I have to say
something, that is my job.


I can't speak for the rest of the country but if you want a shot, you
can have one here and it has been that way for almost a month. Once
supply caught up with demand, the rollout included all of the big
commercial pharmacies and the county finally got their act together
you just signed up and got your shots. We didn't have to stand in line
or play one of those "caller # 99" games on the internet.
Now it is just show up and get a shot, like the flu shots. They can't
give away all they have available.
I think it is time to tell the anti vax folks, "You made your choice,
here we come" and throw away these silly masks.
The state is already open and has been since last year.

The doomsday scenario didn't happen. We get some cases and the numbers
rise and fall but the fact is you have as good a chance of dying in
your car as you do from dying of Covid here right now (about 50 a week
in the last hyped up "spike").

It isnt just about dying, stupid.
There is no real stress on the hospitals either. What scares you so
bad?

600K dead Americans? People with lung transplants? People still suffering
from bizarre effects a year later? Knowing friends of friends, relatives of
friends that died? Knowing that while the risks are now lowering, it's far from
over?



We watched Crocodile Dundee and got the idea Australians were tough
but you seem, like pussies scared of everything the more we get to
know about you. I guess it was just a movie.

I'd say it's more like you're still in denial. Remember a year ago, when you advocated
for letting her rip? How many more dead and sick do you think there would have
been had that been the policy?
Hard to say based on the Florida experiment.
Our death rate is lower than more than half the states (rank #28 out
of 51) and we have pretty much been let'n r rip since the summer.

New Jersey, still somewhat locked down 286/100,000 Median age 40.1
Florida, mostly open since summer 162/100,000 Median age 42.5

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...s-us-by-state/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._by_median_age

Factor in that NJ got hit extremely hard, early on, last spring, while FL did not.
It started in NY, NJ, WA. And back then the death rates were much higher,
because we didn't know how to best treat it.