On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 01:02:53 +1000, "Rod Speed"
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 08:53:34 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 29/04/2021 08:06, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 00:49:57 -0400, Clare Snyder
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 23:43:31 -0500, Jim Joyce
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:41:00 -0400, wrote:

Once everyone is vaccinated who wants to be, why are we not "lettn ur
rip"?
Let Darwin decide who dies.

Which country does that? The US obviously doesn't operate that way and
never has.

The original story was we wanted to limit infection to prevent
overloading hospitals
We are there and have been for quite a while in the US.

Then it was we need to build herd immunity.
Between the vaccine and natural cases, we are about as close as we
will get. They can't fill all the vaccine slots they have now. Anyone
who wants the shot can get it.

Masks have gone from "the general public doesn't need a mask" to
"Wear
2". The CDC has finally relaxed the rule and said if you are outside,
all alone, you don't need one. (like people outside all alone ever
needed one).

The lock down thing is, at best, inconclusive.
States that are wide open like Florida are not doing any worse than
states that are locked down.

You folks really need to pick a story and stick to it.

What is it about science that bothers you? Why do you have a hard time
with
the concept of learning as we go and adapting to what we learn? Where
is it
written that "In the beginning everything will be known and no new
information will be discovered"? I haven't seen that written anywhere.

I am about to be done with all of this crap. I had my shots, it's
been
3 weeks. What else do you want?

A modicum of common sense doesn't seem like too much to ask.
WAY too much to expect of Greg Fretwell. What bothers him about
science is he has n ointerest in understanding it. He's worked all his
pitiful life at remaining in the ignorant state we are all born in,
and he'll be damned if he's going to give up on the job at this
advanced stage of his life.

I am not going to squander the rest of my life quivering in fear.
I played the game, I wore my face covering, I got the ****ing
vaccination. I am about to be done with this ****. If I die I will die
out there living, not huddled in the corner scared of a virus I am
supposed to be immune to now.

The vaccine doesn't necessarily make you immune, but it does give you
much better protection from the virus.

What is sad, is that you may be vaccinated, but you can still be a
carrier/spreader to the 40% of idiot antivaxxers and the folk who can't
be vaccinated for health reasons, thereby perpetuating the constant
spread of the virus.

So this will never end.

Wrong, all you need for 90s% to be vaccinated to see the virus no longer
relevant.


I doubt you will get 90% in the most compliant countries and the US is
not one of them. We typically only get around half who take the Flu
shot and that is a well established vaccine.
Australia doesn't do much better than us with the Flu vaccine.


As of 2 days ago you had only given out around 7 doses per 100 people
and some of those people got 2 doses so the real number of vaccinated
is lower than that.
https://tradingeconomics.com/austral...ccination-rate

The US has 142,692,987 people with at least one shot.
89,988,424 have been fully vaccinated. (as of yesterday
https://usafacts.org/visualizations/...racker-states/

We also have over 15 million who have immunity from getting and
recovering from Covid and those are just the ones who sought medical
care. If Fauci's original guess is right that 80% will recover without
medical care that will be more like 50 million.
Even a conservative estimate would say that of the 250 million adults
in the US close to 2/3ds have some degree of immunity right now.
142 from vaccination and a very conservative estimate of 20 million
who had the virus, recovered and haven't been vaccinated.

You can't really compare your experience with ours.