On 23/04/2021 15:21, tim... wrote:


"nightjar" wrote in message
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On 20/04/2021 18:08, Tim+ wrote:
nightjar wrote:
On 20/04/2021 13:40, Tim+ wrote:
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ANPR cameras are already all over the country monitoring your
movements.
What additional privacy issues are you worried about?

Not me; the opponents of a road pricing system. Possibly because road
pricing would need an awful lot more of them.


Which is why a simple mileage based system would be so much easier.

We already have a simple mileage based system and one that, unlike a
flat distance rate, rewards those who use more efficient vehicles. It
is called Road Fuel Duty. All we need to do is extend it to electric
vehicles too.

Having thought on the matter further, I realise that would be much
easier than I first thought. If all public charging points applied the
tax at point of sale, the way Road Fuel Duty is applied, the only
problem would be collecting the tax due when the vehicle is charged at
home. ISTM that could be solved with a very minor modification to the
vehicle - the addition of a short range transmitter that only operates
when the vehicle is connected to an outside supply. A linked receiver
would detect it and notify the house meter that a vehicle was connected.

The house meter should then be able to detect the change in use when
the vehicle is connected and disconnected and hence know what rate it
was charging at. This should work even if the vehicle is connected to
13A socket, rather than a dedicated charging point. The tax can then
be collected through the electricity company. No need to track anybody
and all revenue collections are completely automatic.

but every one of the 29 million home in the UK has to have a new
electric meter, despite about a fifth of them not owing a car

Why would the people without cars need to have a new meter? They won't
have a receiver linked to a car transmitter. In any case, all meters
should be replaced on about a 20 year cycle, as they come up for
recalibration.

and how would it work at all in an HMO, with a shared electric meter,
but only one resident having a car?

How would that work at present? Surely the non-car owners would want to
be able to split off the cost of charging the car from common use
electricity.


Or how would it work for people who charge up whilst a work - a use case
that's mooted for solving the problem of people not having a the
possibility of a charge point at home

Those can be public charging points, where the tax is paid at point of sale.

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Colin Bignell