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In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 27 Mar 2021 20:34:07 -0400, Ed Pawlowski
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On 3/27/2021 7:47 PM, Maskless Sociopath wrote:
On 3/27/2021 3:20 PM, micky wrote:
Despite what some do, it's outrageous to use nazi for anyone other than
mass murderers, and not just of 10 or 100 but of millions.

For anyone who uses the word as you have, it makes him look like an
totally ignorant jackass.



Your hero uses the term...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...st/ar-BB19s6z6


Trump read Mein Kampf so it is a valid comparison. If you watched
Hitler you would see many comparisons. The big rallies, the repeating
of lies are similar.

I did say Hitler and Nazi should not be used lightly. He started a war
that caused the death of 60 million people, mostly civilians. Trump has
said he admires some of the dictators in the world.


Yes, a big difference, but as you say, there are still similarities
which as far as I know have not been true at all of any other prominent
despicable American.

Joe McCarthy
Richard Nixon
George Wallace, Lester Maddox
Huey Long
Aaron Burr
Douglas MacArthur (who is much better than the rest of this group but
disobeyed orders twice, in significant situations.)

Who have I left out?

All of them had major problems but not the sort or the extreme that
trump has. There are two stories of Aaron Burr's goals and maybe they
were dictatorial, but he made so little progress it can't be determined
and doesn't really matter afaic.

Nixon committed crimes to make a little money and to stay in office.
Hardly the same thing.

McCarthy might have believed the essence of what he said. Even if he
held nothing in his hand, he might have believed there were lots of
Communists in the governments and they posed a serious threat, or he was
just promoting his political career. But afaik, this was his only
problem wrt the public.

I didn't list any Confederates, but as racist as they were, as much as
they supported slavery, that's just one or two sins, and they wanted a
democratic, elected governement for themselves.

(FTR, MacArthur went seriously beyond his orders when he attacked the
Bonus Army camped on the Mall in DC, and again when he crossed the 38th
parallel, for which he got fired by Truman, but I'm sure he thought both
acts were beneficial to the US**.)

Who have I left out?


Trump is uniqe as far as I know in US history, and you've explained it
well.

Desire to be a dictator, as you point out.

In addition, an amazing array of other bad attributes.

Constant lying, not just when it supports some political goal (though on
an old flashdrive I found and played an episode of Talk of the Nation
where the guest thought constant lying was its own strategy to make him
"control the truth".

Hate mongering for many different groups (although that's really covered
by what you said)

Mocking cripples, at least one of them, the reporter

Draft-dodging, including the perjury that went with it.

Attacking gold-star parents, at least when one set who were iirc
Moslems. (and that I guess is part of his main strategy)

Calling his own daughter a [fine] "piece of ass".

Cheating contractors in business.

Slander of loads of people in loads of ways. Phrased so as to not be
legally liable, but still really slander.

Attacking the American system of elections

Adultery, at least with his first wife and probably with the other two,
especially if you count whores.

Whore-mongering, though if he were single and we didn't have AIDS, I
wouldn't criticize it.

Ridiculing a disease that later killed 500,000+ Americans, Nonsense
about Covid remedies, refusal to wear a mask. AFAIK even hitler didn't
do things to kill aryan germans (other than sending them to die in war
or in Allied bombing counter attacks, but not by minimizing disease or
injury or obstructing its treatment).

Being a bad loser.
Being a bad winner.

Being a crackpot, it seems, or trying to look like one.

And I know I've left out 5 or 10 others because he has more wrong with
him than anyone I've ever read about, and I can't remember all his
failings and moral failings at one time.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...rongmen-649635

President Donald Trump reliably tells the truth on one thing: He likes
the way dictators do business.

“He speaks, and his people sit up at attention,” Trump said on Friday
morning of North Korean despot Kim Jong Un in an interview with Fox News
— a network where he receives no shortage of praise. “I want my people
to do the same.”

https://www.chronline.com/stories/le...-dictator,1008

Perhaps most horrifying, Trump has said on more than one occasion to
groups of white supporters, most recently at his rally in Minnesota on
Sept. 18, that they “have good genes. It’s the racehorse theory.” This
is the language used by the Nazi’s to rationalize the Holocaust


Yes. If he'd been there, he'd have been an eager accomplice.


**
https://www.marshallfoundation.org/b...38th-parallel/
First hit I got. From the Marshall Foundation so it probably puts the
best possible light on it. I haven't read it but it must at least
outline the facts, and probably adds good light on top of actual facts.
Of course it might just be a pack of lies. We've learned that some
people will do that and some Americans will accept it.