On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 11:04:07 AM UTC-4, pyotr filipivich wrote:
on Sun, 28 Mar 2021 21:25:04 -0400 typed in
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 16:36:25 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:
DerbyDad03 on Sun, 28 Mar 2021 10:18:46 -0700
(PDT) typed in rec.woodworking the following:
On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:04:52 AM UTC-4, pyotr filipivich wrote:
knuttle on Sat, 27 Mar 2021 15:45:40
-0400 typed in rec.woodworking the following:

Considering what construction lumber is going for these days, it is all
less than premium.
Today's 2x4 that goes for $8 is the same quality as last years $3 2x4.

Tain't the cost so much as I don't need pristine, organically
grown, faire trade, each tree individually selected and harvested by
druids in a sustainable manner, hand selected by virgins "perfect"
lumber. I just want "board, 2"x4"x96", one each" etc. Something
grade three or below.
I tend to go check Home Depots "mark down cart" - 70% off. Yes,
that's a major defect. OTOH, there is 7 feet of board without the
defect, and I can cut the two pieces I want out of it. "It will do."

Do you have a Restore (Habitat for Humanity) near you. Some have a lot
of lumber, at usually a good price.
I do, and I have, and I've gone broke saving money.

OTOH, they don't always have the size I'm after. Which brings me
back to my first query: what happens to the less than Premium Grade
hand selected gluten free vegan lumber? Shirley, it can't all be
getting sent to the PRC?

I guess I don't know what you mean by less than Premium Grade lumber.

What I mean is that if I go to a web site for a lumber yard, big
box store, whatever - I am assured that what they offer is the finest
premium lumber. Perfect for Your Home Project! And their prices
reflect that. Great.'

Um, when was the last time you saw the "finest premium lumber" in a
lumber yard or BORG? I think I remember my father talking about
carrying it out on the backs of unicorns.
Bizzzt!

Read closely: I did _not_ say they _have_ the finest in Premium
lumber.
I said they _Advertise_ having the finest in Premium Lumber. (No
doubt harvested by Elven Druids and hauled out of the woods by teams
of Unicorns lead by Leprechauns.)

Except I am not looking to build beautiful furniture that I can
pass along to the children, grand children and the antique
auctioneers.

When was the last time that you saw furniture grade lumber in a lumber
yard? Before the last ice age? ...or was it before the big asteroid?
In my youth. Of course in those days it was felled with stone
axes ...

Which is all beside the point.

I know that there are lesser grades of lumber, I'm just wondering
if there are retail outlets handling it, or do I have to search for a
sawmill and order a "unit"/ pallet load?

Nah, just go to the BORG. They have lots.

Even the Premium Grade lumber at most home centers is less than Premium
Grade.

Deceptive Advertising is SOP.

"Deceptive"? It seems that you're the only one who thinks lumber
yards are in the business of selling furniture grade lumber.
Sigh, I don't know why I ask these questions.

Maybe it's not the questions, but the way you ask them. Maybe.


Do you know of a company which doesn't advertise _having_ the
finest in premium lumber?

Could you supply an ad that uses that phrase? I'm not sure I've seen it used.

I've seen claims like...

"Each piece of this lumber meets the highest quality grading standards
for strength and appearance"

That would tough for a big company to falsify, since there is a grading system
that they are *supposed* to adhere to.


And if one can't get furniture grade lumber at a lumber yard,
where does one get it?

I could get it at place that does millwork, such as a window and door
shop. I could also mill my own from rough lumber bought at more places
than I care to list.

This was all milled in my garage, assuming you consider a bench made for
a dining room table to be "furniture". (I thought it was, imagining a quality
finishing job. Then she painted it pink.)

https://imgur.com/lKWXiTy