"Tekkie©" wrote in message
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 20:38:07 -0400, Clare Snyder posted for all of us to
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 15:30:37 -0400, Tekkie©
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 14:02:03 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to
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On 3/26/2021 12:32 PM, mike wrote:

I can't see the inside of that cartridge filter, nor can I do a
flow
test.

I disagree you can't see inside that cartridge filter since
teardowns
exist.
(1) Why do you think it has a pleated filter & which are the best?
(2) Why do you think it has an antidrainback valve & which is best?
(3) Why do you think it has an overpressure valve & which is best?
(4) Why do you think it has a gasket for engine mating & which is
best?
(5) Why do you think it has many holes around the outside & which
are best?

But none of that applies to the filter in my car for the past 5000
miles. Sure, I can buy what seems best but that has nothing to do
with
the present condition of my car as I change the oil today. May have
been great for 4900 miles but will it be good for the next couple of
thousand?



Not just about money too.

You had not yet mentioned a single decision that wasn't only about
money.
I mentioned the specifications, OEM recommendations and the tear
downs.

Clearly we think differently.

You seem to only care about money and convenience (and that's OK).
I very much care about what it is that I'm trying to accomplish.

I care about making my car last. Even a cheap car is a hefty
investment
and while I abhor waste, I do believe in proper maintenance. In the
time of ownership I will get 10 oil changes or in your case, an extra
5
filters. About $50 extra on a car I spent $50k on. Keeps my warranty
and peace of mind.



I'm under the car, filter is right there, two minutes and done.
I'm
certainly not going with an interval other than a change time.

Most people are like you in that they don't understand what it is
they buy.
They just replace it without thinking using any interval they feel
like.
They probably don't even read the owners manual to see what it says.

And that's OK.
You can replace your oil filter on any interval you feel like doing
so.

But I'm going to base my replacement on understanding what the
filter does.
And I'm also going to base it on understanding what the manufacturer
says.
And I'm going to base my replacement on choosing good filters to
start
with.

Having said that you're welcome to replace yours on any interval you
like.
But if you ask me how I choose my interval then don't only bring up
money.

Yeah, say what you want but you bring up money every time. Seems like
you want to save it and that's fine too. My engine has a 100k
warranty
and even if I don't keep the car that long the next owner gets
benefit.
Owners manual says change the filter.

You realize you are talking with Arlen Holder...
Now he claims to be a ritired accountant - He always claimed to be an
engineer before, didn't he????

Yup, it's Arlen. I keep reading because I look at it as humor.

I keep reading because I find it interesting to see if he can
change his persona convincingly for long. Clearly he cant.

He plonked me a long time ago.

He appears to just ignore me for a while but eventually
cant manage to stop himself from responding.

Like the condom vending machines at the the drive-ins said:
"For amusement purposes only" I can't wait for his next nym.

It was interesting that he used to change it almost daily,
then went for months with Arlen Holder and has now
started changing again. He has a couple of different nyms
in another group I read and was missing here for a while.

He can't help himself. Clare you're a good guy, don't let
him get to you. He seems to have that nack because you
are a serious minded, no BS type. (There is nothing wrong
with that!) I have come to the conclusion he is some kind
of research assistant at the library with little self esteem.

Nar, he's an older retired fella with one hell of a bee in
his bonnet about some stuff. He quite literally will never
use any card at all, always uses cash, obsessively changes
the ID details on all his hardware to make it harder to track
him electronically but cant do anything about his very
distinctive style and even now the use of particular words.

He did admit to being Aspergers and that's very obvious.

But what do I know? Flame on