On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 08:03:58 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

knuttle on Sun, 28 Mar 2021 22:31:32
-0400 typed in rec.woodworking the following:
On 3/28/2021 7:36 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
DerbyDad03 on Sun, 28 Mar 2021 10:18:46 -0700
(PDT) typed in rec.woodworking the following:
On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:04:52 AM UTC-4, pyotr filipivich wrote:
knuttle on Sat, 27 Mar 2021 15:45:40
-0400 typed in rec.woodworking the following:

Considering what construction lumber is going for these days, it is all
less than premium.
Today's 2x4 that goes for $8 is the same quality as last years $3 2x4.

Tain't the cost so much as I don't need pristine, organically
grown, faire trade, each tree individually selected and harvested by
druids in a sustainable manner, hand selected by virgins "perfect"
lumber. I just want "board, 2"x4"x96", one each" etc. Something
grade three or below.
I tend to go check Home Depots "mark down cart" - 70% off. Yes,
that's a major defect. OTOH, there is 7 feet of board without the
defect, and I can cut the two pieces I want out of it. "It will do."

Do you have a Restore (Habitat for Humanity) near you. Some have a lot
of lumber, at usually a good price.
I do, and I have, and I've gone broke saving money.

OTOH, they don't always have the size I'm after. Which brings me
back to my first query: what happens to the less than Premium Grade
hand selected gluten free vegan lumber? Shirley, it can't all be
getting sent to the PRC?

I guess I don't know what you mean by less than Premium Grade lumber.

What I mean is that if I go to a web site for a lumber yard, big
box store, whatever - I am assured that what they offer is the finest
premium lumber. Perfect for Your Home Project! And their prices
reflect that. Great.
Except I am not looking to build beautiful furniture that I can
pass along to the children, grand children and the antique
auctioneers.

I know that there are lesser grades of lumber, I'm just wondering
if there are retail outlets handling it, or do I have to search for a
sawmill and order a "unit"/ pallet load?

Even the Premium Grade lumber at most home centers is less than Premium
Grade.

Deceptive Advertising is SOP.

I have never shoped at one but there are some company that call
themseves discount lumber yard. Do you have one of these.

Nope.

Of course Google thinks anything with 'lumber' on the webpage is what
I'm looking for. Even a missspelled "lumbar support" offering.
Find a local sawmill and see what they say. Arounf here we have
numerous small mills operationg on (mostly mennonite) farmsand a lot
of ash trees being cut.I could likely source some rough cut lumber
from one of them but non-certified lumber (non-graded) is not allowed
for building construction here - which makes it difficult to build
using lumber cut from your own trees on your own land (except single
story FARM buildings)

Article 9.3.2.1. requires that lumber used for joists, rafters,
trusses and beams, and for uses listed in Table
9.3.2.1., has a grade stamp to indicate its grade as determined by the
“Standard Grading Rules for
Canadian Lumber”. Table 9.3.2.1. includes such uses as posts and beams
not less than 114 mm in
thickness, roof sheathing, plank frame construction, etc.

So I guess my "shed" isn't "legal" but being under 120 sq ft and not
on a permanent foundation, without plumbing, did not require a permit.