In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 19 Mar 2021 22:58:29 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 20:24:06 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

writes:


"The effectiveness of the Moderna is 94.1%; Pfizer, 95%,
Johnson & Johnson, 66%."

Since the survival rate of unvaccinated people is 99.7% or so those
numbers are somewhat un reassuring.

You are comparing
apples to oranges. You cannot extrapolate from the
death rate of those who have so far had the virus to the
entire population, the majority of which have not contracted
the virus. So your 99.7% number is meaningless, wrong and dangerous.

Note that the survival rate for all vaccines is 100%, as
even if one does get the virus after vaccination, the symptoms are significantly
milder, if even detectable.

If Fauci had said that Paul would not have had much more to say

Why are we still running scared even after vaccination?

Because even the best vaccine is only 95% effective and it's still not
known how much vaccinated people (not only don't get symptoms but) don't
get infectious** so they can infect others. There's a lot of evidence
that they resist even getting the infection, but they don't have good
numbers yet, and unless the number was very high, unless 80 or 90% who
don't get infectious, that is still enough to continue to spread the
disease and infect whatever unvaccinated people there are, who risk ICU
and death. And that's the sort of thing public health workers care
about.

There must be web pages that discuss disease transmission of
communicable diseases, which I think is the major aspect of
epidemiology. Reading 5 or 10 screens about that could be
enlightening. There is a lot of arithmetic in it I'm sure.
Multiplication especially.


**I'm using "infectious" because of an earlier misunderstanding we had
here. One of us used "sick" to mean showing symptoms and the other used
the word to also include infected. I think I was the second one and I
never posted an even better example. If someone T has typhoid but no
symptoms, but people can still catch typhoid from T and then die, is T
not sick? I say T is sick, even without symptoms.

But it was also reasonable to use it to mean only people who have
symptoms. That's what the meaning often is, sick meaning showing
symptoms, like vomiting, fever, etc. Without that someone's not sick.

Because these are two meanings of the same word.