On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 3:28:53 PM UTC-5, wrote:
which it spread and never stopped.

NBC carried the "November 2019" story a day or so ago. I have seen it
in other places too but I am not really paying that much attention. If
you don't like the current story, wait a few days, there will be a new
guess.

Just Googled for it and found nothing. I did find this:


https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...covid-19-fall/


Yeah it is all from that Qanon rag Reuters one other outlets outside
the US.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN22I1E3
https://www.sciencealert.com/covid-1...-december-2019
https://www.thehealthsite.com/news/c...-study-795731/
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/stud...r-2019/2073897


Not one of those says what you claimed which is that Covid was here in the US
in November. Italy isn't the US, France isn't the US. The closest thing is the story
that says that a study found Covid positive blood samples in the US from Dec 13
to Jan 16. I was aware that scientists are continuing to try to determine where
it originated, where it was and when. I still have no source that says it was in the
US in November.





Sort of shoots the hell out of the idea this didn't leave China until
January.

No serious person has claimed that, AFAIK.







Testing for that has never been a priority.

We still don't even know how long immunity will last on the existing
strains.
If I am wrong, the joke will be on Moderna.

I don't see any joke.
It will be if they built a huge infrastructure for their only product
and that product is no longer needed. You better have shorted your
Moderna stock if that turns out to be true.

From what I've seen, Moderna didn't build a huge infrastructure for anything.
AFAIK, they contracted out the manufacture of the vaccine, packaging, etc.
And with huge worldwide demand for the vaccine, hundreds of millions of
doses, probably into the billions, the economics look excellent to me,
even if Covid is stamped out.

There is still a huge infrastructure built around this vaccine that
will be abandoned if the vaccine is a one time deal. I bet it isn't.

You keep claiming this huge infrastructure, but I see no evidence of it.
Yeah, Fauci is just mixing this stuff up in a drum in the basement of
Building 10 at NIH.

This is an entirely new class of drug and you don't just stir it up in
an old facility or we would already have all we need.

In other words, as usual, all you have is pure speculation. As I said, AFAIK
from what I have seen and read, Moderna contracts the manufacture out.
Just because it's a new technology for a vaccine doesn't mean that the
lines to produce it have to be radically different, extremely expensive,
that some or much of it are not already in existence.

As to why we don't have all we need already, perhaps you should look to Trump?
Trump was incredibly incompetent at this too and we just got very, very lucky.
We had 6 vaccine candidates, Trump should have made sure that we had the
infrastructure, the supply lines in place to produce enough of it to vaccinate all
Americans quickly, if any one panned out. Suppose only one had succeeded. We'd
be really, really screwed right now. He only placed orders with each of three
companies that in total were not enough to vaccinate all, even if though they all
panned out. If only one had succeeded we'd be a year away from having everyone
vaccinated. In late summer, when Pfizer offered him the opportunity to place
orders for more, he declined. Biden had to place those orders, now we're
behind the rest of the world and that vaccine won't arrive until summer.
So much for making America great again.








I bet business being what it is and the NIH/CDC being an industry
driven bureaucracy, the recommendation is going to be for annual
boosters.

I expect that decision will be based on facts and science, not conspiracy
theories.

Talk to me about this next summer

No point, you'll still be in Qanon land.

If I am not just puking out the government story of the day you accuse
me of being a Qanon guy. I didn't even know who they were until you
started talking about it and I looked it up.

You should know who they are. Trump has transformed the GOP from the party
of Lincoln and Reagan into the party of Qanon, white supremacists, and insurrectionists.