On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 16:51:41 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:
On 3/11/2021 6:37 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 1:05:01 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 3/11/2021 11:31 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet writes:
On 3/10/2021 5:02 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
Sounds complicated. Compared to mine. Get rid of the gates. and the Y.
Not complicated at all. Why do you think that?
I have a 30 foot hose, with a flared end to fit the machine. Not tools
requires to move from one machine to another.
You on the other hand have a Y with a hose attached to each side. My Y
is capped off on one side. You have 2 gates that get clogged. I "never
ever" get clogs. No gates to open or close.
So I only use one tool at a time, I have no need for a manifold and or
gates.
I've a 2HP Reliant DC with a single 6" inlet connected to a 6" by two 4"
wye. One side of the wye connects to rigid plastic 4" drain pipe with
gates for the shaper, the disk sander, the drum sander
and the TS.
The other side of the wye goes another wye, one side of which connects
via a gate to the bandsaw, the other side goes to another wye, one
branch of which goes to the DJ-20 jointer, and the other to the SCMS. Most of
this is 4" flex black DC hose.
When needed, the 15" planer is moved to the center of the shop and
a 4" hose is connected to inlet used by the jointer, but I've found the
drum sander does many of the jobs the planer was used for.
All metal gates, and I've never had a clogging issue with them.
My exotic set up. ;~)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...in/dateposted/
I work out of a 3 car garage, the car comes in if I am not working on a
job. It has not been in the garage since Christmas.
Anyway all of my machines are on mobile bases so fixed DC pipe would be
a moot point.
So I'm guessing that you don't use that hose for general cleanup or smaller
tools like a sander. You have a separate Festool vac for those sort of things,
don't you?
For general clean up, yes. I sweep up dust that does not get caught and
suck that up with the DC hose. For example the DP. Routers. Small
stuff, The Festool dust extractor goes to work. Track saw, 4 sanders,
Domino, Kapex, Kreg pocket hole jig, and the Shaper Origin.
A big issue between a dust collector and "shop vac" is that the
collector is high volume (low speed) and the shop vac (even Festool)
is high speed, low volume. A shop vac isn't going to suck enough to
get must that a planer will throw at it and it won't do it for long
without overflowing. ;-)
The DC gets the TS, BS, The Planer, the Jointer/ Planer, Drum sander,
Spindle sander and Disk sander Router table
Stationary machines tend to need a high volume of air because they put
out more junk but also have better collection systems. Routers, track
saws, and the like, need high speed (pressure) to get everything from
the cutter because the collection system isn't go great and the dust
coming off them is at high speed. Even necked down, a DC can't
produce a high speed stream. The DC will just choke. Both a DC and
vacuum are needed.
I have a dust collector that I bought about 12 years ago. It's a "no
name" from Penn State, when they were selling things other than pen
turning stuff. It's a 2HP with a 1u bag but is a PITA to empty (needs
it now). Even though it claims to be 1u, I do worry about what gets
through. I also have a shop vac for general clean up and a CT48 for
the small tools. Of course, the CT48 is HEPA and other than the drum
sander, tends to be used for machines that produce really small stuff
(sanders, primarily).