On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 07:18:28 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 10:18:50 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 18:42:55 -0500, Frank "frank wrote:

On 3/11/2021 2:33 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
On 03/11/2021 10:37 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/11/2021 1:12 PM, Frank wrote:

Lot of seniors have been confounded as to how to get the vaccine. It
has been a crap shoot on signing up. It was a nightmare on getting our
first shot. Traffic was lined up for miles and what should have taken
an hour took four and a half. The second was given at a mass event that
went smoothly but still took three hours with longer driving distance.

There are also a lot of seniors and lower income that do not have
computers. Most places seem to have a number to call and get on a list
though.

Friend has no computer and just a dumbphone. I tried for over a week to
sign him up. I was especially annoyed at the pharmacy websites that
said YES WE HAVE IT HERE NOW but after filling in their form there were
no appointments available anywhere in the state. When I asked the local
pharmacist she said No, they hadn't been given any vaccine or even told
when they would get some. Cluster****.

Finally I got him signed up at Dodger Stadium for both shots, but the
*******s insisted on texting me (at 25 cents each) updates instead of
sending email. I HATE THAT. My $10/year prepaid plan (which is pretty
much perfect for me) charges on a per-call/per-text basis. I NEVER want
to get texts. /rant

Got my shot Monday and Tuesday the county called with an appointment as
I was on the list. Press 3 to decline. Two hours later, another
automated call to verify that I declined.

Now I'm getting email from various doctors' offices about the
availability of vaccine. Oh goody.

My friend in PA also has property in NJ so was able to get a shot there.
My friends in MA can get one but has to travel some distance to a
stadium.

Should improve with the greater quantity being shipped now.

By the time they get the system working properly we won't need it any
more. You know, just like everything else!


Problem is vaccine shortage. As supply increases it will be easier to
get as all drug stores and doctors offices will have it. I read that
while it is free for us, those that give it get $28/a shot.
My bet is this Covid shot will be an annual thing. Once they get
tooled up to make it, they won't want to stop making it and they will
talk the Faucis of the world into saying we need it to fight the
variants, just like the flu.

One step away from Qanon crazy. You make it sound like some grand
conspiracy. If it's necessary, normal people see it as a necessary, sound
solution to a pandemic, a public health crisis, a solution that will save $$$$,
lost productivity, lost lives.

Not a grand conspiracy, just the government and industry doing what
they always do.
Even at a time when this thing seems to be winding down, Fauci is
still running around with his hair on fire. My guess is when we stop
worrying about the virus he will retire. That is likely to be by
Easter if Johns Hopkins is right.
We will have a better indication in a month.
If all of the Daytona bikers and spring breakers don't spike
infections back up to last spring levels in wide open Florida I think
this is on it's way to being history.
The question nobody has a decent answer to is how many people carry
antibodies from asymptomatic infections over the last year.
Now they are even suggesting this virus was here in November of 19 and
didn't get much notice until it got loose in the nursing homes and
other weakened elderly populations.

Testing for that has never been a priority.


We still don't even know how long immunity will last on the existing
strains.
If I am wrong, the joke will be on Moderna.

I don't see any joke.

It will be if they built a huge infrastructure for their only product
and that product is no longer needed. You better have shorted your
Moderna stock if that turns out to be true.
I bet business being what it is and the NIH/CDC being an industry
driven bureaucracy, the recommendation is going to be for annual
boosters.
They are already suggesting that will be the case. Whether it will be
combined with the flu shot is already being discussed although I am
not sure that will work. Storage requirements are drastically
different, even if they were compatible in one injection.