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On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 9:45:06 AM UTC-5, Wade Garrett
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On 2/26/21 9:01 AM, micky wrote:
OT Why $7.50 is enough

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1807595.html


"Republican Senator John Thune has rejected an effort from
congressional
Democrats to raise the federal minimum wage from $7.25 an
hour
to
$15,
pointing to his $6 or less hourly wages that he earned
working
at
a
restaurant as a €œkid€�."


Thune graduated from Jones County High School in Murdo, South
Dakota in
1979, when a $6 hourly wage €“ adjusted to modern inflation
rates €“
would
amount to roughly $23 in 2021 dollars.

But he thinks, or he wants you to think, that if he got by on
$6
or
less, people 41 years later should get by on 7.50.

If you don't want minimum wage, don't have minimum skills.

Are you aware that there are people who, no matter how hard they
try,
will never have more than minimum skills? The retarded bagger at
the
grocery store, for example.

Next you'll be bitching that those minimal-skills people are
getting
food stamps because they can't afford to live on minimum wage.

Try not to trip as you step across their dead bodies in the
streets.

Cindy Hamilton

Here's the thing Cindy: Every barrel has a top, a middle and a
bottom.

I know that.

My guess is your rose-colored glasses prevent you from seeing that
bottom and accepting that every barrel has one.

Nope, I can accept that. But I'd rather see the bottom of the
barrel
paid enough for their labor to live on, rather than sucking at the
public teat. Apparently you like to see your tax dollars pay for
Welfare.

As Clare pointed out, a high minimum wage just makes a shorter
barrel.

Yes.

The top wage will be slow to move as the
bottom wage starts catching up to it.

Yes.

Unless the market can tolerate higher prices the
total cost of labor has to be pretty static.

Thats bull**** when the bulk of the
employees are getting a higher wage.

If prices rise, it eats into that gain
you got from the wage hike.

Duh. And yet Canada works fine with the higher minimum wage.

Clare pointed out the shift manager makes 73 cents more an hour
than the guy who just started this morning. That is not working
"fine".

Corse it is for the fast food operation and consumers.

Just not for the employees they were supposed to be helping.

It clearly does help the vast bulk of the employees
as long as the fast food operation continues to be
viable and theirs clearly is just that.

You might as well just stay an expediter and not
bother to move up for a lousy 73 cent raise and
have to deal with running the shift.

That depends on whether you prefer to continue with
the routine drudge work or prefer to run the shift.

Just take the burgers and fries from the warmer,
bag them and hand them to the customer.

Much more boring than running the shift.

Running the shift at a fast food joint is still boring,

Yes, but not as boring as mopping the floor or doing nothing
but shoving the bag with food in it over the counter.

you just get yelled at more for stupid
stuff the morons you are managing do.

But you get to sack those when they do that.

You can be stoned at work and handle that.

Not if they drug test and plenty do now.

You might be better.

Only in the sense that system is designed
so that even the worst droid cant **** up.

Not much of a life tho being a human droid.

That is what minimum wage jobs are.

So telling the droids what to do isnt as bad.

The only reason they exist is because a machine
ends up costing more. Fast food has been ripe
for automation for 30 years.

They discovered that the customers dont like automats
as much as having a human droid hand them their food.

They were just waiting for a financial
incentive. A $15 wage would do it.

Doesnt explain why that hasnt happened in Canada and
Australia which both have much higher minimum wages
than the USA and have done for a long time now.

Tho certainly here at least almost all of the human
droids are kids with less than adult wage levels.

You could easily see the staff cut in half
just by adding a couple of machines.

See above. We dont even see all the supermarkets with self
checkouts, even the very aggressive cost saving ones like Aldi.
So the reality is more complicated than you suggest.

They have already lost 2 cashiers in most of the McDonalds by
using self order kiosks and phone paid drive through orders.

But havent automated the food delivery in Australia and Canada.

Once they start adding more automation
to the food prep, staff will fall fast.

That hasnt happened in Australia or Canada.

Nice theory, pity about what actually happens.