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Default OT - binoculars with built in camers

On 27/02/2021 13:07, David wrote:

I get far better pictures of distant objects from my Nikon P600 than I
can see through my Carl Zeiss 10 x 80 binoculars. I have the bins on my
windowsill but I usually go and get the camera if there's something
happening. I should mention that I have a very good view in that
direction.

I find that it's much easier to use the camera (with the screen) than it
is to use the bins.

You want to get a camera.

Bill


Kind of you to assume that I don't already have one.


Good grief! I spend some time writing a helpful reply and I get a snooty
response like that!

I'll rephrase it. Get a camera that will do what mine does. I did give
you the model number, trying to be helpful.


Just as a hint, on a 35mm camera the 50mm lens is roughly natural size.
So my longest lens (200mm) is roughly 4x natural size.


Which is hopelessly inadequate for your purpose, just as my SLR with
200mm lens would be. That's why I pointed you towards a specific type of
camera. Did you google it, and find out what the lens is capable of? Did
you ****! Well I shouldn't have wasted my time. You can't educate pork.

My binoculars are 10x42 which gives a lot more detail.


Obviously.


So 35mm camera doesn't have enough magnification (unless I want to spend
several hundreds perhaps thousands on a very long lens) which is then only
usable with a monopod or tripod and is also a big thing to lug around.


That's why I didn't suggest a 35mm camera.


Small format cameras with LCD screens on the back are fine if on a tripod
and also not having bright sunlight shining on the screen.
Ditto mobile phones.


Obviously. But with a proper camera the screen is on a ball socket thing
so you adjust it for the best viewing conditions. I usually use the
camera at waist height and look down at the screen. There's no problem
with glare or anything.

Both give pretty shaky results if hand held at 10x or higher.


Decent modern cameras have image stabilisation. At the longest focal
length, which is the equivalent to 1,850mm on a 35mm camera, I can hand
hold at 1/125 sec and get pin sharp results. And I've got essential tremor.

There is also the "just a minute while I dig out and power up and...****,
missed it!" situation.


The camera is round my neck on standby. Soon as I touch it it's ready.

Not really comparable to leaning it on your window cill.

So, my use case is that I out walking in the countryside, am looking
through binoculars, see something fleetingly visible and want to capture a
picture.

I have large and small cameras and a mobile phone with a decent camera but
these aren't working for me.


Like I said, buy a camera.

Bill