"Clare Snyder" wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 15:17:00 +1100, "Fred" wrote:



"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
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On 2/26/2021 9:20 PM, Fred wrote:



Oh, as in someone with training?

Nope, those who choose to specialise in that area.

How did they learn?

By doing it, just like any decent mechanic does.

Came to them in a dream?

Nope.

You made my point. You no longer go to Smokey's CB shop up the road.

Wrong, that is precisely who do specialise in that stuff.

Yep, they learned in a dream on night.

Nope, by doing it.

Yes I have, and got an unlock code for one in one of the
used Mercs that a mate of mine buys off ebay, fixes and
sells for twice what he paid for them, by fixing their fault.


Yes, one person.

Plenty more than one person that even I know.

It isn't just a radio any more. Navigation, cameras, sat reception,
connected services, modems, and more.

Yep, and that's part of the reason its specialists that do most of
the
work.

Exactly, people with some training.

Still wrong, they don't have formal training. they just specialise in
it.

Where did they learn it?

By doing it.

Bull****. My mechanic mate hasn't had any.

OK, a sample of 1 Very scientific.

None of the others I know have either.

If the glass company does not have the instruments you do. Some now
have them, not all do. As the systems become more commonplace they
are
investing in the equipment. Genesis dealers get about $125 for it.

But those operations don't go back to school to learn how to do it.

They use the documentation that comes with it.

WTF do you think that is? A form of training.

Bull**** it is, just like it isnt with any appliance
or the car you buy.

And it still makes no sense for the state to require 4 years
of formal training before you can work as a mechanic.

I never said 4 years. But a competent shop today has assorted
training
for their certified mechanics.

And the best mechanics don't need that.

Try running a dealership without it

I know one that has done just that.

I guess you don't mind these guys working on your car.

In fact I do all the work on my car myself.

Another sample of 1

Plenty of others do that too.

And we wonder why "STEALERSHIPS" have such a bad reputation -
particularly in the unregulated redneck states and why everyone
in the USA seams to be continually bitching about "mechanics" -
because they very seldom actually are dealing with a properly
trained, educated, cerified and regulated "professional" mechanic.

Its no news that plenty of mechanics don't have
a ****ing clue with more difficult faults, even the
ones with 4 years of professional education.

Even you must have noticed in your time in Africa that
there are plenty of very decent mechanics that do fine
without any formal education in mechanics at all.

Even your "ASE Certified" designation
is a bit of a sorry JOKE, by and large.

So its silly to require that before you can work on cars.

ANd as for guys with no training working on their
own cars - BOY, could I tell you some stories!!!!!

Its no news that most don't have any real capacity to
even work out why their lawn mower isnt working!!!!!