In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 18 Feb 2021 23:25:29 -0600, Jim Joyce
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 17:39:42 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 09:56:45 -0500, Ralph Mowery
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In article ,
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I doubt that anybody getting a degree in 4th Century Greek sculpture
could hack it at trade or technical school. Those disciplines require
aptitude.

Now, don't get me started on how useless most young people are because
they've spent their whole lives twiddling cell phone buttons or going to
"maker academy" where nothing has to be kludged together.



Yes, today the young people do not seem to be able to do simple repair
things around the house.

That is only because they never had a chance to be taught. "Shop"
disappeared from middle and high school in the 70s (probably because

Really? Must be a Florida thing. There's still shop class
in high school here in California (called industrial arts).

educators didn't know which end of a hammer you hold) and we are

It's pretty telling that you can't make a simple statement
without resorting to insult.

The high schools that I'm familiar with in North and South Dakota still
offer wood shop and home economics, the same as they have since the 1960's
or even longer. My sister tells me that the ND HS where her kids went
offered wood shop, auto shop, and home ec. When I lived in Kansas, the
local HS offered wood shop, home ec, and computer networking. My son opted
for the networking classes, which has served him well in his adult working
life but I bet if I handed him a piece of wood and a hand saw he'd take a
moment to figure it out.

Missing from all of those schools is some kind of metal working class. You
get a little of that in an auto shop class, but not enough to make it
somewhat equivalent to what they teach in wood shop. I still use what I
learned in the mechanical drawing classes some 40 years ago. Before I build
a woodworking project, my weekend hobby, I draw the front, side, and top
views that I learned in mechanical drawing. I sometimes draw the 3D
perspective angle, but it's not usually needed.

We had woodshop and something about drafting in the 7th grade, I suppose
for a whole year. I remember that the drafting tables were built at the
prison in Pendleton Indiana.

My mother wanted a shoe rack that didn't have round dowels to hold the
shoes. She used it for 38 years. I have it now.

We had metal shop and a little printing in the 8th grade. I was going
to make a centerpunch or nailset but didn't finish. I still have that
and it's useful. For printing, each kid was supposed to bring in a
recipe, print it on 3x5 cards, and each of us got a set of them. Those
I don't have and I don't think my mother saved them either.

I looked on the JHS website but it didn't say anything about specific
classes.

I took autoshop as a senior, instead of 4th year Latin. Definitely a
full-year course, so the others probably were too.