"Roger Hayter" wrote in message
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On 31 Dec 2020 at 12:41:09 GMT, "Richard"

wrote:

On 30/12/2020 18:05, Fred wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article l.net,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 16:11:32 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:

Its all completely automatic on an iphone. If your phone dies like
his
did, just replace it, enter your apple ID on the replacement
and carry on regardless.

Same with android phones ...

Only if you've let Apple/Google have your data (I don't) or run your
own cloud/sync server (I do). Or use something like "My Phone
Explorer".

I'm *really* not sure I want to give
Apple or Google my phone book, etc.
Its completely safe with Apple, they can't even
give it to the FBI if the FBI demands it.

And you have Apple's word that it's all safe with them?

I believe Apple feel they have an obligation to keep an *American
citizen's*
information from the FBI. I doubt they feel any such obligation to a
non-American citizen. And note that, like our law, the American security
law
makes it illegal for a person/organisation to tell the customer when they
have
voluntarily or compulsorily revealed their information, for instance to
the
security services who they may feel are more deserving than the FBI.

But we do know that the FBI had to try to **** over Apple in the
court system to get that data, and failed. They wouldnt have done
that if Apple had given them the data and said nothing about that.

I think if I had secrets I would rather use Huawei, on the grounds that
the
Chinese government are unlikely to give my information to MI5. Though I
wouldn't rely on that.

Apple can't give the data to MI5 even if they want to.