On 23/12/2020 11:19, T i m wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 00:58:33 +0000, John Rumm
wrote:
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Give a child an apple and a rabbit and it will play with the rabbit
and eat the apple. If on a desert island and without the conditioning,
at what point do you think it would think to eat the rabbit?
I would have it first, and save the apple for desert...
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Would you though? If you weren't brought up in a culture where animals
were seen as food, what would make you think they were edible?
On yer island, there is a child with an apple and a rabbit. Both the
rabbit and child will be dead pretty soon without some fresh water
anyway. I'm betting on the rabbit eating the child if the child is too
stupid to eat the rabbit. Is this child a vegan by any chance?
With no fire (knowledge of or the means to make one), how would you
process it to even make it consumable?
This is my point, if 'most people' see an injured animal or one in
distress they will generally do all they can to help. Releasing it
from being caught and / or taking it to a vet / rescue to ensure it
gets treatment (as we did recently with a goose with a leg that was
about to drop off because of fishing line).
The cognitive dissonance would be after rescuing said animal, people
would go and tuck into the remains of another animal that would have
suffered at some point?
Animals who wouldn't generally be here (or exist as a sub species)
*naturally*, they are only here because of *artificial* insemination.
Farmed Turkeys are probably not alone in being a farmed animal (even
the terms now disgusts me) unable to breed naturally, because of how
much we have mutated them for our own needs.
So, killing anything should only ever be done out of necessity, kill
of be killed, self defence (when that is the only assured solution),
.... or survival and the latter doesn't apply to the vast majority re
animals and food in 2020.
This (98 year old) sums most of it up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX58PyQwrcI
He died two years ago ;(
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellsworth_Wareham
I get though why you would try to defend the idea of seeing (a
restricted sub set of all species of) animals as food, because that's
both how you were brought up and you say you have relatives who earn
their livelihoods off the exploitation of other creatures (as I and
millions of others would see it).
Cheers, T i m