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On 17/12/2020 17:47, charles wrote:
In article , Robin
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On 17/12/2020 15:46, GB wrote:
On 17/12/2020 13:39, Fredxx wrote:

I think all lives matter equally, does that make me a racist?

Of course it doesn't, when taken literally.

However, the 'All lives matter' slogan has been adopted by racists, who
think that Blacks should accept their position at the bottom of the
heap without complaining. So, if you say "all lives matter", most
people interpret that as you meaning that black lives don't.

There's no question that innocent black people are far more likely to
be shot by police in the USA than innocent white people. Hence,
whatever you call it, the BLM movement has a good point to make.


I'd quite like to see the statistics showing that "innocent black people
are far more likely to be shot by police in the USA than innocent white
people" as it seems to me to raise some tricky issues - starting with
how to define "innocent".


Innocent until proved guilty


So everyone the police shoot is innocent unless they are an escaped
convict? Or do they count as "not innocent" if convicted after the
shooting? The latter is problematical if they are shot dead as
prosecutions of dead people are exceedingly rare. It's also
problematical if common-sense dictates that being shot is punishment
enough so a prosecution would be a waste of resources.

FTAOD I am not denying that many American police have problems, just
seeking the basis for "what everybody knows".

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