On 16/12/2020 18:15, GB wrote:
On 16/12/2020 17:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 16/12/2020 16:36, R D S wrote:
On 16/12/2020 14:46, GB wrote:
As I stepped well out of his way, a chap I passed took the time to
'inform' me that Covid doesn't exist, and it's a government
conspiracy. We should all ignore any precautions, he said.
I'm ever so slightly tin foil hat myself* but then it occurs to me
that the most staunch deniers in the main come across as mental.
*Because when all is said and done we are and will continue to lose
liberties.
Well, my experience is that almost everybody in the public eye is
lying most of the time. To the extent that I no longer wonder if it is
true, but why they are lying about it...and who is paying them to do it.
Whether there is one grand organised conspiracy seems unlikely. I
think my experience suggests that most people go along with the lies
for a quiet life or for personal advancement and financial gain.. Or
to be part of the crowd and not socially isolated. So a given
narrative gains momentum, or not. Take Black Lives Matter. That's a
well organised well funded Marxist conspiracy to create racism, but
its failed to gain traction and is dying on its feet, along with the
greater depths of wokeness.. Whereas too many people have found ways
to profit from 'climate change' to treat it with the contempt it
deserves.
Is Rothschild behind it? The Iranians think so. Right wing
conspiracists in this country prefer Soros.
I am sure they are in the mix somewhere, but really what it is is lots
of people playing their own game and being bought and or blackmailed
by people with money, and good intelligence.
I am sure Covid is real, I am equally sure that people with deep
pockets are paying other people a lot of money to turn a random event
to personal profit and political power.
It is a great rehearsal for how far you can push a population into
submission by Big State and get away with it.
You actually don't strike me as insane, but you certainly have some
nutty views**. Maybe, you need to visit different web sites?
No, I simply am aware that there is a vast range of belief out there,
and multiple world-views, of which the one that you espouse, is merely a
single rather narrow and bigoted one.
Remember Arthur Andersen were our accountants once, and advised us to
break the law and mount a stock market scam to make lots of money. I ve
been there and have some T shirts. You really do not know what goes on
behind the scenes of the glossy marketing presentations you are
presented with.
In philosophy there are two schools of thought - broadly - realism and
idealism. Realism says the world is real and it doesn't matter what you
think it is, it doesn't change it. idealism says the world is all in
your mind and reality is whatever you believe it to be. The first is
how we do physics, the second is how we do politics and marketing. Post
Marx and the soviet union the idea that you can control a population by
manipulation of their beliefs took hold and its now the de facto way
it's done. All it takes is money and willing participants.
In this branch of philosophy it doesn't *matter* whether e.g.
ClimateChange„˘ is real or not. What matters is to *convince* people that
it *is*, and thereby make them accept that world government is the only
answer.
Which particular Rothschild, by the way? There must be dozens.
Go to any pro Iran conspiracy site.
The rationale is Iran hates Israel, Israel is Jewish ( No!) Rothschild
is Jewish with lots of money ergo Rothschild is Anti-Iran.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/musli...7161184308620/
is a fairly normal resume of the meme..
Then google Bilderberg for an alternative visions of a world dominated
by central bankers and puppet politicians and Bill Gates and George Soros.
If you really want to understand my philosophical position its more true
to say that I regard knowledge - *all* knowledge - as having
in-decidable truth content, and that Kantian transcendental idealism -
which broadly says that it *makes sense* to *believe* there is an
objective world out there, yes, but we are forever only able to approach
it through mental constructs, and the softer the science the more mental
are the constructs, until you get to the absurd position of e.g.
'subconscious racism' which is deemed to exist, in the same way a stone
exists, but you can't ever see it, because its subconscious! What a
great Zen style mind **** that one is!
So my interest and perspective is less about what I think is true,
because it's _all_ lies, really, just some work better than others - and
more about what belief structures are being pushed, by whom and for what
purpose, for you seem to have missed the fundamental truth about the
media, its all paid for by *someone*, and he who pays the piper...
...and furthermore, there is a far deeper and more subtle game being
played here, as a sort of psychological misdirection. What counts is not
which side of an argument is correct, but why is the argument happening
in the first place? Why must we for example, interpret human history
solely in terms of class conflict *alone* thereby condemning us to be
either a victim or an oppressor? Who *told* you it was all about class,
or race, or gender, and why did they want to move public debate on to
that issue? And don't believe they ever felt a deep moral compunction.
Purlease!
That human affairs news and the media is orchestrated and controlled is
obvious to everyone post Brexit, when in a panic they lost subtlety and
revealed a little of how the game was played. Who is organising it and
controlling it is of course another matter. How do politicians like
Blair, Major, Cameron end up very well off indeed when MPs salaries are
not that great?
Blair at least bought houses on mortgages, created a housing boom, and
flipped them. Insider trading par excellence, BUT what happened to him
after that?
"Cui Bono"? asks Cicero.
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes"? asks Juvenal.
It's a pity we don't do the classics anymore.
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You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a
kind word alone.
Al Capone