"T i m" wrote in message
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On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 10:56:18 -0000, "michael adams"
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"T i m" wrote in message
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snippage throughout

I actually moved her climbing gear bag yesterday and I can assure you
there are no mechanical ascenders (or spikes) in there.

So how does she get from the ground 60ft up the branchless trunk of
a tree ?

I think you are confusing 'tree' with 'telegraph pole' mate?

In the parks around here we have proper trees. 200 and more year
old cedars planted by posh people. Not stuff planted in the 1950's


So I wonder what they don't sell golf balls with holes drilled though
them for weights on throw lines then, and supply a bean bag instead?

As you said its tradition innit ?

They didn't have golf balls 200 years ago did they ?

Think about it.


and you'd have
to be pretty stupid not to notice where the ball actually went.

No, it should be on the end of your line, now wrapped 5 times round a
branch and locked in place.

Your recommendation for the tradional lead filed throwing bag was
that it wouldn't hurt you if it hit you on the head. But the only reason
the trowing bag wouldn't similarly wrap itself 5 times around a branch
would be if it was that much heavier than a golf ball.

But it wouldn't hurt as much if it hit you on the head, Stun you
perhaps but nothing serious.

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Who said anything about taking down trees ?

I did, when I described the descending (keep up).

How can you descend a tree that isn't there ?


The topic was climbing up them and coming back down.

And do you think they would climb down without chogging the tree down
with them? Keep up.

Or more specifically in this case how your daughter mangages
to get from the ground to 60ft up a branchless trunk without
the use of ascenders of any kind or spikes.

See above. If it was a real tree not telegraph pole, using a throw
line or ladder to get into the lower branches then climbing (as in
kids tree climbing).

There *are* no lower branches. How many more times ?

Try Google images for "tall trees".


Have you actually ever used one ? Has your daughter ?

What do you think? No, belay that, you don't 'think' do you, you just
assume and guess and build up a (bogus) picture in your own (closed)
mind. ;-(

You're not very good at answering direct questions are you ?

I've notices that before.


At least apart from "training excercises"

See above. What part of being trained at an Arb College and working
for several arb Co's (where she was often the climber) did you miss?

If so I'd be interested to know what advantages you found as
against using mechanical descenders.

Convenience and cost. You can make a Prusik loop yourself if you need
/ want to.


But why would anyone want to ? Cost ? Basically if you can't afford
to invest in a decent bit of kit maybe you shouldnt be doing it
in te first place. Same with ropes. Have you seen the cost of
decent rope nowadays ?


You also have what I call
a safety rope which I do use attached to a harness back and front
again running through a friction brake

All sounds very complicated. Are you sure you aren't talking about
rock climbing?

You can just as much damage to yourself falling 30 ft out of a tree
as you can falling off a rockface.

Of course? And? How many people need to climb rock faces regularly for
their jobs, other than mountain rescue / RSPB etc and have you never
heard or free climbing?

What has anything got to do with your claim that my choosing to wear
a harness when climbing trees was "very complicated"


When climbing a tree for your job

What "job". People only fall out of trees when its their "job" ?


Didn't your daughter explain all
that to you ?

Didn't need to mate, a fear of heights and loud noises are built into
most people so don't need 'explaining'.

The difference between you and I are that I've been involved in all
this from a professional POV and you haven't. ;-(

So how does she get from the ground 60ft up the branchless trunk of
a tree ?


Why not just answer the question from a professional POV ?

I mean I've seen blokes who I assumes to be "professional" do it
on some really tall trees around here, and I'm just wondering
how your daughter manages it.


michael adams

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