On 10/18/2020 9:28 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 10/18/2020 2:22 AM, T wrote:
On 2020-10-17 22:20, Fred wrote:


"T" wrote in message
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On 2020-10-17 18:59, John Kuthe wrote:
On Friday, October 16, 2020 at 9:02:25 AM UTC-5, masktard wrote:

Cloth masks help keep us from spraying moisture droplets out our
mouth and nose. An N95 mask helps prevent the spread of viruses like
influenzas like Covid 19 or Tuberculosis VIRUSES to/from ourselves.

John Kuthe, RN, BSN...


Bull ****.

Fact actually.

Prove it with a randomized clinical trial.

https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577

Hi Fred,

Thank you for actually doing it right.Â* "Science
baby science", to quote Simon Pegg:

Â*Â*Â*Â* Results The rates of all infection outcomes were
Â*Â*Â*Â* highest in the cloth mask arm, with the rate of ILI
Â*Â*Â*Â* statistically significantly higher in the cloth mask
Â*Â*Â*Â* arm (relative risk (RR)=13.00, 95% CI 1.69 to 100.07)
Â*Â*Â*Â* compared with the medical mask arm. Cloth masks also
Â*Â*Â*Â* had significantly higher rates of ILI compared with
Â*Â*Â*Â* the control arm. An analysis by mask use showed
Â*Â*Â*Â* ILI (RR=6.64, 95% CI 1.45 to 28.65) and laboratory-
Â*Â*Â*Â* confirmed virus (RR=1.72, 95% CI 1.01 to 2.94) were
Â*Â*Â*Â* significantly higher in the cloth masks group compared
Â*Â*Â*Â* with the medical masks group. Penetration of cloth
Â*Â*Â*Â* masks by particles was almost 97% and medical masks
Â*Â*Â*Â* 44%.

The key words a
Â*Â*Â*Â* Penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost
Â*Â*Â*Â* 97% and medical masks 44%.

The study shows clearly that neither one works.Â* And
that the cloth ones are atrocious.

And at 44% or 97%, "you first!".Â* 44% is way more that
is necessary to get infected.Â* 97% is total bull ****.

I have a study that shows cloth masks cluster bombing
folks and aerosols going right through N95 masks.Â* Would
you like to see either one or both?

By the way, I work for a guy that designed the N95.
He told me in no unequivocal terms that THEY ARE
NOT DESIGNED FOR VIRUSES.

-T



It's just common NONsense that masks aren't going to prevent any viruses
from spreading.