On 16/10/2020 11:32:45, T i m wrote:
On 15 Oct 2020 21:43:50 GMT, Tim Streater
wrote:

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Y'see this sort of thing is why I consider the likes of T r o l l to be
weirdos.

Ah, of course the Squeaker Goblin is going to hobble up to the PC in
the asylum and put in it's backward 3dth. ... ;-(

Make a personal decision about eating meat? I can live with that,

But the victims you enslave, exploit and kill can't can they,
hypocrite.

https://ibb.co/h883FH2

Does that include your endorsement of the mutilation of your dog's
genitals for your personal pleasure?

That's without making them eat food that is unnatural for them, fill
their bladders and bowels to bursting, and endorse the mutilation of
their genitals for your pleasure.

as
long as they don't make a song and dance about it.

It's called 'speaking up for the voiceless'. Not something a left
brainer Goblin would understand or care about eh.

At least he has two sides of a brain. Judging by your arguments and
hypocrisy you seem to be missing half of yours.

But then it turns out this
lot cut their noses off to spite their face.

It does does it, you think you actually understand the fundamental
ethic and goal behind it all do you? Bwhahahahaha!

I don't see any ethical value in your endorsement of the mutilation of
your dog's genitals for your personal pleasure?

Made using hens' eggs? Oh well
forget it then.

"Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is
possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty
to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose."

Quite, I eat meat ethically to get a natural source of B12

*Seek to exclude as far as possible and practicable ...*, how is that
worse than what you and your fellow meat eaters and animal exploiters
are doing buy supporting it all?

It is practical to eat meat, no more exploitation than you seem happy to
inflict on your pets.

Gelatine from some non-vegetable source in the ice-cream?

Yup, that's why we seek out alternatives (and there are many, inc the
vegan Magnums), or go without. It's all about not putting our own
pleasure over the suffering of others.

As is your right to seek out alternatives, as long as you don't impose
your enforced way of life onto others and live both our lives in harmony
without conflict.

Ooh
no, can't have that. And so on.

Or if you look at it a different (non selfish non arrogant non denial
way), there are some things we wouldn't eat (and that may not be
alternatives for) because they support animal exploitation, suffering
and death. A price I and millions of others are more than happy to
pay.

Just like you exploit your pet animals. Nothing wrong with animals dying
for food. Though, unlike you, I campaign to their death to be humane and
as painless as possible.