On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 13:51:51 +0100, williamwright
wrote:

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I realised as I sent.

Np.

Given you do obviously care about animals, or dogs at least, can you
please explain (genuine question) how you differentiate between say
caring, loving and protecting a dog, and 'happily' (assuming it
doesn't weigh on your conscious), killing a cow for your lump of
steak?

I ask because that sounds like a 'logical inconsistency, caring for
one species of animal but not for another, to the point where you
would actually kill and eat it?

By comparison, those that are known to eat *anything* (I once heard
something said along the lines of one cultural group that 'If it has 4
legs and isn't a table, swims but isn't submarine and fly's but isn't
an aeroplane ... they'll eat it', is at least, 'logically consistent?

For me (suffering the same 'logical inconsistency for most of my life)
it was a matter of doing what I believe many do and 'prefer not to
think about it' (the fact that an animal has to die for us to eat
them) or, as others have suggested here, that the whole process is
'ok', 'RSPCA / Red Tractor' or whatever assured and that conjured up
animals frolicking in natural circumstances but eventually having one
bad day. The truth for the vast majority of live stock is that it's
far form that 'natural' and *never* humane (you can't take an animals
life against it's will, 'humanely' etc) so after cutting out dairy for
heath reasons a few years ago and never being a big meat eater, I (we)
took the opportunity of trying cutting out meat and eggs completely in
Veganuary with our daughter and have stayed on it ever since.

In so doing, we have looked closer into all the goings on behind the
scenes re live stock and given the rapidly growing number of
non-animal, plant-based alternatives now out there, the whole global
warming thing (with WAY more mammals on the planet than their ever
were, specifically the *trillions* of live stock we raise to kill and
eat, many producing loads of methane (20%, more than all
transportation) and huge quantities of waste) and the morality of
taking an animals life when it's unnecessary 'these days', it was
really a big weight off our shoulders, not being part of the problem
any more.

This is especially so when you compare the characteristics of the
animals we do seem perfectly happy to eat over here, namely pigs, cows
and sheep when it's known that pigs for example are as or are more
intelligent than a dog, so it can't be us rating them on that?

We know part of the reason those particular animals were chosen to be
domesticated for us to eat, was the fact that they are generally
docile but that make it worse that we would use that very trait
against them, especially when it comes to slaughter time. Imagine
trying to take a new-born gorilla [1] baby away from it's mother for
example?

I 'get' if you think we (humans) are in some way 'above' all the other
animals we share this rock with ... and that then gives us the right
to take their lives, just because we like how they taste but that
doesn't seem logical when you also have dogs as companion animals?

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Cheers, T i m

[1] folivore (FAH-lih-vor)

Noun

herbivore that eats mainly leaves.