On 05/08/2020 17:11, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Wednesday, 5 August 2020 15:47:07 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 05/08/2020 14:36, Scott wrote:
On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 14:14:36 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

On 05/08/2020 13:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Following a thread on uk.telecom this might be of use to
people here contemplating FTTP as well.

https://vps.templar.co.uk/index.php?...20installation



What is in the external box?

Looks like they have "cost reduced" the install and done away
with the battery backup for the PON terminal. (they used to
include the termination and the battery backup both installed
in a larger wall mount box:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...nitWithPSU.png

(the box on the right has 4 AAs in it).

Interesting they actually made use of the copper pair in the
drop wire... On mine they just wound it up near the termination
and saved it for some future time if required (there are
already 2 x pots drop wires into the house). They did moan that
the very thin teflon insulated wire was very difficult to strip
and use!

I have seen this on the other thread. If you are over 65, can
you just register as 'vulnerable' and tell them you need a
reliable system that works 24/7?

For most existing users this will be for broadband provision only,
so any existing phone lines will carry on working as they currently
do.

However they are moving toward disbanding the copper network, and
FTTP will become the default install even if all you want is voice.
That will then be provided by VoIP on a "slow" (500Kbps) FTTP
service. It may be that for voice only users they will provide the
battery backup.

(they probably figure for data users, its a moot point since few of
them will have a UPS to hold up all their other IT kit to actually
benefit from the broadband staying up during a power cut)

Few will have a UPS, indeed. But many will have tablets, laptops,
phones, etc., which have a UPS effectively built-in as they are
battery devices.

Does not help much when your router and wifi is not powered...

The problem often becomes having sufficient power for both the ONT
and the local router (plus anything else like LAN extenders) rather
than the end device. Keeping the ONT up while letting the router drop
is very likely daft.

Indeed, PON terminal is not a router, just a PPPoE modem - you need a
router etc in addition to it, and if you have the battery backup for the
PON box it does not power the router, so you are back to a separate UPS.


--
Cheers,

John.

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