On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 20:40:01 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 12:58:40 -0500, Jim Joyce
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 02:10:38 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 00:21:14 -0500, Jim Joyce
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 19:10:11 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 15:54:10 -0500, Jim Joyce
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 12:34:26 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 01:22:32 -0500, Jim Joyce
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 13:33:06 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 05:29:02 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 22/07/2020 03:05, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 18:03:17 -0700, Bob F wrote:

On 7/21/2020 5:27 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 20:57:10 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
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What happens if I go to New Zealand?
I am under house arrest for 2 weeks. That is locked down.

The residents and visitors (after 2 weeks quarantine) are not
in any way locked down. And the quarantine is _why_ they're not
locked down.

See we just need a wall ;-)
They have an ocean.
It is also a country smaller than most of our states.


https://www.gzeromedia.com/the-graph...-spike-28-june

So they did a better job with immigration and quarantine.
They also still have a pretty big part of the economy shut down.

This isn't EU either. The average American carries around a whole lot
of "**** You" and has a proud tradition of telling the government to
**** off. That is why we kicked out the king a couple hundred years
ago.
We will get over this, more like Sweden than Korea.
Hide in your safe place until it's over. You will be OK.

Is it any wonder that other countries get the impression that Americans
are loud and cocky when they hear folk like you belch out stuff like that.
I'm sure that most Americans are not like that, at least the ones I've
met weren't, you do your country no favours at all.

What else could you call the 45 days of rioting in our cities that
Joyce and Bob are praising? They are destroying any vestige of
government authority that they can find.

What have I praised? 1 + 1 = 6 again.

I'm condemning the use of secret police. Try to keep up!

What secret? We all agree they are federal agents.

Who is we? As of last night, no one in a position of responsibility had
stepped forward and said "these are our guys", so if that information has
been released today, I haven't seen it yet. I haven't had the TV on,
though.

So as of last night, the *assumption* is that they're Federal employees,
but no one knew for sure, or which department they might be from. They
clearly hadn't received training for the Portland mission, but that doesn't
help narrow it down. They wore military camo uniforms, similar to our
active military forces walking the streets of Iraq and Afghanistan, but
they clearly aren't military. No organizational insignia, no rank, no name
tapes, nothing to identify them. They could be a self-formed group of far
right militia members who bought fatigues at an Army Surplus store, but I
have my doubts about that. Still, saying they're not this and they're not
that doesn't really help.

Unless someone steps up and claims them, I'd say round a bunch of them up
and hold them in custody to see who squeaks.

They work for the
federal government. What else do you need to know?

An awful lot of people, me included, would like to know who they work for.
My apologies in advance, but your guesses simply aren't good enough. Like I
said, though, maybe someone has stepped up and claimed them today. I can't
stay glued to Fox News like you can.

The authority they
have comes from there and it doesn't matter legally which department
pays their salary.
A special agent from the HHS has exactly the same arrest power as one
from the FBI.

Meanwhile cite a credible source that says someone had a bag put over
their head.

Why would I do that? You say the dumbest things, just when I thought you
had already said the dumbest things. Keep reaching for the stars, I guess.


OK lazy ****, Top hit on Google. This answers your questions and it is
the NYT, not Fox

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/17/u...d-arrests.html

Thanks for making my point. As your article points out, the secret police
could be any or all of "officers from Customs and Border Protection, the
Transportation Security Administration, the Coast Guard and Immigration and
Customs Enforcement who back up the Federal Protective Service".

Look at that list. Now you know why the secret police had no idea how to
conduct themselves. Heads should roll over this, but I imagine we'll have
to wait for the Presidential election to sort this out. Biden's list of
things to fix grows by the day with this reality TV President. Down by
double digits, even in the Fox News polls, he's desperate.

Just to remind you, since you have the attention of a squirrel, we still
don't know who the secret police are. I have the TV on tonight and even now
no one has stepped up and said 'they are our folks'. All we have is a list
of Federal agencies that might be involved, along with video that shows the
secret police to be in entirely over their heads. Someone is likely to get
hurt, sooner rather than later.

You just posted the list of who they are, all sworn law enforcement
people working for the federal government.
There is no "secret police" in there.

I posted a list, and we're no closer to knowing who they are. If you know,
you're the only one. No one on TV (as of last night) has said who they are.
They wear military-style camo fatigues with no agency markings, no
insignia, no name tapes, etc. When asked to identify themselves, they spray
tear gas, swing batons, and kidnap people off the street, tossing them into
unmarked Enterprise rental vehicles. You're OK with that?

I didn't see Gestapo in there anywhere.

As we've established several times before, you're not a student of history.
You were clueless about nooses and lynchings, Juneteeth celebrations, the
entire Confederacy and what it stood for, and on and on. What were you
doing when you were supposed to be in school?

No I was actually paying attention to the lessons about the holocaust
and I know plenty of Jewish people who are ****ed about the way you
minimize it with stupid analogies like this.

I call bull****. You know zero people who know me. Plenty, my ass.

Yeah right, 12 million Jews, Gypsies and gays murdered and burned in
ovens is exactly like some snowflake being tossed in a van and driven
down the street a quarter mile and let go.
I am sure you would like to say that yuppie was "gassed" too but tear
gas is not Zyklon B.

1 + 1 = 6 again. No grey in your life, everything is either pegged at one
end of the meter or pegged at the other end. Have you always been that way?