On Mon, 06 Jul 2020 23:23:32 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

on Mon, 06 Jul 2020 18:54:57 -0400 typed in
rec.woodworking the following:
On Sun, 05 Jul 2020 19:03:16 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

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I do believe that it was Justice Holmes who did point out that no
man is obligated to arraign his affairs for the benefit of the tax
man. I forget who said that the avoidance of tax is possible the
only intellectual exercise which has a real return. As I said stated
above:"It is called "working with the rules".".

No, what you describe above is not "working within the rules". It's
busting them all to hell.

The Rules do not allow A, but do allow X. And how is X defined?

Laws clearly define such things. If the building was inspected when
it was incomplete, it needs to be inspected when it is complete,

Did you notice that his building was in GREECE? And that he had
his building inspected _according to the law of the land_? And that
was the Practice of the Country in which his residence was being
built?

Are *YOU* in Greece? You're the one who's talking nonsense.


if for no other reason that you've improved it (increased its value). Try
this and, at a minimum, you may have to take out another building
permit.

If you do this in California, I'm sure. But if you haven't
noticed, Greece is not California.

I'm talking to *YOU*, in case you didn't notice. I'm disputing your
position.


You may not get a CO, either, since the building is
incomplete. If you're working with the building inspector on this,
it's plain out and out fraud, probably conspiracy too.

Then that is how you present the situation so as to count as an X, and
not an A. It is not a forbidden "dock". It is a "wildlife
observation platform." It is not a Second floor, but an attic. An
incomplete house is not subject to the same taxes as a completed
house.

But you can't generally move into an incomplete house.

Define "incomplete"!

No CO, which usually includes, but not limited to heat, water,
electricity, as well as things like fire/CO alarms, and often a stove.

These buildings are considered incomplete by the law of the land.
Take it up with the Romans if you don't like it.

Let me ask again. Are *YOU* in Greece?

By law, if a house was constructed overnight, it was illegal to
remove it. And lo, one morning on my way to school, I saw a "new"
house where there had been a corner in the wall the day before. Now,
I realize it did not meet the US Housing code, but so what? Under
Turkish law going back to the Ottomans (or earlier) it was legit.

You move your house from Greece to Turkey in one night?

Most jurisdictions have a concept of a "certificate of occupancy" that
means all health and safety stuff is in there (and it's been recorded
at the tax assessor's office).

And most jurisdictions are not the United States. Pay attention.

Once again. ARE YOU IN GREECE?

I'm sure that bribing local officers of the state is illegal in
Greece, too. Perhaps it's normal but that doesn't say it's legal.

I have been told that Hughes Aircraft has small truck farm on
one of their properties. That makes the property "agricultural" and
not "Commercial" for tax purposes.

Hobby farms do that all the time but on a scale like that, I doubt it
highly. Zoning, alone, would probably make that impossible.

Try again. When Hughes bought the property, he was allowed to
build buildings on it, but at least between 1 and 5 acres had to
remain cultivated for it to qualify as a "farm". That was the law,
that was what he did, he had a five acre farm with some outbuildings.

Not buying it. Even you weren't sure of the facts. Citation required
for incredible claims.

Ask any accountant about the
_legal_ ways to not show a profit. (Did you know that Star Wars has
yet to show a profit, on paper?

Of course. It's rare that a movie makes a "profit". Bill and Hill's
foundation doesn't make a "profit" either.

And yet you ramble on about how the law must be followed, or else.

Idiot. They *ARE* following the law. They have a thousand attorneys
making sure they're following the law.

So those actors who got a percent of
the net profits are out of luck. You want a percent of the gross.)

Their agents aren't that stupid anymore.

And so on and so forth. You are not obligated to conduct your
business for the benefit of the tax man.

Certainly but you can't break the law while doing it, either. There
is a difference between "avoidance" (perfectly legitimate, and some
would say it's an obligation) and "evasion" (a criminal offence and
highly frowned upon). What you describe is clearly the latter.

So complying with the letter of the law is violating the law????

Tax evasion is against the law, yes. Yes, violating the letter of the
law is against the law. boggle?

But be that as it may, I take it then that you are not one to
evade your taxes by taking any deductions?

Oh, good grief! Do you really not know the difference?

Yes I do. But you do seem to be the one who will conduct your
business so as to benefit the tax man. granted it is your money, so it
is your choice. Do you pay MSRP? (Manufacturers Suggest Retail
Price)

You really can't read, can you?

What you seem to be unable to grasp is that conforming to the
letter of the law is an old practice And the customs of your town are
not universal laws.

Being thrown in prison is an old practice, too. Yes, it's illegal to
evade taxes in my town, and I'll bet it is in yours, too.

So have a nice day, and don't break any of the federal or state
tax laws. Or violate code, either. You better check in and make sure
that everything you do doesn't violate a law, regulation, or
departmental rule.

I try not to. It's a good way to live life.