On Saturday, July 4, 2020 at 10:47:37 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 22:57:54 -0700, pyotr filipivich
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on Fri, 03 Jul 2020 01:27:37 -0400 typed in
rec.woodworking the following:
On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 00:53:24 -0400, Clare Snyder
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On Thu, 02 Jul 2020 23:02:18 -0400, J. Clarke
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On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 20:49:32 -0500, dpb wrote:
On 7/2/2020 8:10 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2020 17:29:39 -0700, pyotr filipivich
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on Thu, 02 Jul 2020 16:29:10 -0400 typed in
rec.woodworking the following:
this part of the shop has studs on 24" centers,

2 x 4 24 inch centers supporting a loft & roof ?
.... ok if you say so.

Yep. Made it myself.

I believe you described this edifice as a "shed", by which I assume
you mean as in "shed to store a lawn mower" rather than "shed to store
the Hindenberg". What are the actual dimensions? It makes a
difference in how much load everything has to support. And how much
if any snow do you usually get? That also makes a difference.

UBC tables link...
https://up.codes/viewer/los_angeles/ca-residential-code-2016/chapter/6/wall-construction#R602.3

Can get by w/ 2x4 OC for roof-ceiling assembly or attic assembly only.
If attic, can only be 32-ft span.

Any more would need 16 OC to meet code.

A typical "shed" is not subject to code in most localities you know.

If it's over 100 or 120 square feet or has water (or in some cases
even electricity) it needs a building permit and needs to meet a
minimum "code" (needs an engineering pass)

Ayup. IF I'd built this at the old place, it would have been
subject to county rules. 200 sq if you ask / are noticed. I could
have gotten a Shipping container in for "less". But in the city, more
rules, smaller outbuilding. And a shipping container has a six month
or end of the project time limit.


Ours is 108 sq. ft. 9 x 12 OK
10 x 12 = need a building permit.

yep.

I have consensiously^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H studiously avoided bringing
this to officialdom's attention.

Check for other loopholes, as well. One for mar neighbor (we moved,
they didn't ;-) built their shed on a gravel base and raised the wood
floor off the gravel to get around the concrete floor definition of a
"building".

I have a friend that, other than pouring the slab and having the framing
installed professionally, built a really nice post and beam house, essentially
by himself.

He had a sunken dining room off the kitchen, with floor to ceiling windows
that looked out over the stream running through his property. It had an
adjacent sitting area with a wood burning fireplace, a beautiful chandelier,
a huge table that he had made, etc.

His construction loan was coming due and he hadn't yet installed all the
receptacles in the dining room but he had to get an inspection so he could
get a regular mortgage.

He was good friends with the inspector and had asked him for advice and
guidance throughout the build. If I told you some of the features he built
into the house, such as an elevator run by a 12V winch to bring wood up to
the first floor fireplace, you'll understand that the inspector trusted him
to do everything better than "just the minimum required".

So the inspector comes over, looks at the gorgeous dining room and says,
"You know you need a receptacle every 6 feet in a dining room, don't you?"
My buddy says "Oh...ummm...err...It's a closet!"

The inspector smiles and says "Well, you don't need any receptacles in a
closet. Let me know if you decide to turn this into a dining room at some
point." He then checked the box and moved on. ;-)