On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 13:23:18 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 6/21/2020 12:43 PM, Frank wrote:
On 6/21/2020 12:32 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 06/21/2020 07:32 AM, Frank wrote:
On 6/20/2020 11:06 PM, T wrote:
On 2020-06-20 19:57, Bob F wrote:
On 6/20/2020 7:25 PM, Snag wrote:
** Earlier version , 60.6.1 , I did a cold restart after
uninstalling 68.9.1 and started from scratch . Looks like it'll
auto-update unless I change some settings though .

I have been using Tbird after upgrading from XP to 7 with few
problems, until I had a power outage a few days ago. That one took me
a couple days to figure out and restore all my newsgroups and email,
but seems to be working great again. It turned out to be a mutilated
prefs.js file that caused it to lose all the connections to all my
setting and email/newsgroup data.

Hi Bob,

Get one of these:

https://www.apc.com/shop/us/en/produ...o-700/P-BR700G



The cheaper ones suck.

-T


I have no problems with the cheap ones and have survived many power
failures with them.* They keep you on long enough to have a safe shut
down.

Everything fails sooner or later but the cheap ones tend to fail
sooner. I haven't done a nose count but we must have at least 50
computers in my department alone so it's a larger sample.

The annoying thing is when they fail it's worse than no UPS. during
those brief flashes where everyone screams 'Oh ****!' it's the boxes
with faulty UPSes that go down when even those just plugged into the
wall survive.

You have a lot more experience than me.* I figure you only need a minute
or two of reserve power to enact a safe shutdown.

Years ago I had a Gateway computer go down in a power failure and had
all kinds of problems.* Hard drives cannot take a hard shut down.

Now I even plug the UPS into surge protector.* One day while on line a
branch down the street came down shorting the high tension to the low
tension wire.* Every surge protector in the house got fried including
the one to the UPS but computer survived.* I did lose a microwave.

Someone drove into an above-ground trandformer vault just fown the
road from my Dad's place a number of years back and it sent a few
thousand volts onto the one sife of the split 240 volt distribution
line. Took out a bunch of light bulbs and the TV. All it took to fix
the TV was a fuse at something like 37 cents.

I live just a few miles from Lightning Alley, Tampa to Orlando. I have
a whole house surge protector.

I installed one with my new service entrance panel as well. Central
Ontario's Thunder Alley.

I've got a brand new surplus Cutler Hammer CHSPBRSRB "Clipper"
complete with cable and phone protection if anybody up here in Canada
needs one. Price negatiable in Waterloo Ontario (I ended up
installing the fedicated Square D unit in my panel)

Its not always a bad thing though. A few years back in CT I wanted to
get a nice flat screen TV but could not justify getting rid of a
perfectly good 3 year old CRT 16:9 screen. God answered my prayers with
a lightning bolt. Took out everything on that circuit including the
breaker.