On 30/05/2020 08:54, tim... wrote:
"John Rumm" wrote in message

A more elegant solution, since you can now run the wiring in solid
core CAT5e rather than with a stranded patch lead. Both do the job,
but the solid core is easier to route and dress along the way.

I'm hiding it in plastic trucking (having only recently decorated I'm
not chasing walls and redecorating today)

it will look exactly the same, whatever is inside

it's only the flying ends that will look different

Wait until you have tried stuffing it in the trunking :-)

(the solid core is still generally easier to work with than stranded).

1) do I need a particular grade of cable for 10 metres

CAT5e in either case. Preferably proper copper cable and not Copper
Clad Steel (CCS) or Copper Clad Aluminium (CCA).

will they go round my 90 degree bends?

Yes - although go for a decent size like 25x16 rather than the 16x16 and
it gets easier (and looks somewhat better IMHO)

(having said that - if you have a cable stapler, then a single CAT5 wire
is fairly unobtrusive if clipped direct)

I have found this:

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/CX305R.html

though it looks too cheap, but I can click and collect

Its cheap because, patch leads are dirt cheap at trade(ish) prices,

that not how pricing of sat cables works, least not last time I looked

With network stuff I find if you buy patch cables at retail you may well
have to pay several quid even for short leads.

Compa

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/comput...pid=display~RR

With:

https://www.comms-express.com/produc.../?5~Metre?Blue


and, its CCA - so cheap cable.

being cheap is good, if it works

Well that is the if... much also depends on how you define "works". Yes
they may well get a signal down them, however its doubtful if they
actually meet the ethernet cable specs. So you can find that on the ends
of longer networks you start getting unreliable performance. The s/n
headroom may be lower. They may fail sooner with repeated handling.

So personally I never use CC cable, since the cost saving is not worth
being called back to a customer to fix something later, which results in
far more expense and hassle.

However in the home on a short segment, it will be fine.

In reality at 10m it will work fine.

ok

(I would still opt to pay a similar price for copper from a different
vendor)

https://www.comms-express.com/categories/cat5e-rj45-ethernet-cable-patch-leads-cables/?finder=rj45&params=Category|Cat5e,UTP%20/%20FTP|UTP,Length|10mt


Usually only do copper.

If I install sockets on the wall, are they easy to wire up?Â* How do I

Yup, especially if you get decent quality CAT5e modules. I like these:

https://www.comms-express.com/produc...ttered-module/

so I need the tool to push the wires in

Yup, known in the industry as a "Krone" tool (named after the original
manufacturer).

e.g:

https://www.comms-express.com/produc...nch-down-tool/

(cheaper ones are available, although I tend to find the trimmer
actually works first time most of the time on the slightly better
examples).

So to do the whole job, fix your back box to the wall, and take the
cables into it. You can fit the modular faceplate now or later. Leave
yourself ~5" of cable to work with. Strip 40mm or so of insulation off
the cable, and cable tie the sheath onto the CAT5 module. position the
wires in the terminals - only untwisting as much as necessary to do so.
You manually push the wire into the outer jaws of the terminal - they
are (if well made) designed to allow that fairly easily, and keep a grip
on the wire until punch down. The tool is then positioned in the
terminal, and with a single click effect push, the blades drive the wire
into the IDC terminal blades, and the scissor section on the end trims
off any overhang.

If that all looks good the wire can be folder into the backbox avoiding
sharp bends, and click the module into the face plate.


I have read that there are restrictions on bending the cable

The guideline is normally no tighter than 4x the cable diameter (about
1").

1" diameter , radius, something else?

Bending radius...

In reality for simple runs you will get away with say the radius of a
pound coin.


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Cheers,

John.

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