On Friday, 24 January 2020 00:48:55 UTC, T i m wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 16:03:30 -0800 (PST), tabbypurr wrote:

snip good stuff

However, even she has become somewhat numbed to the problem, something
that might happen when having to pick ~10 large refuse sacks full of
other peoples waste in one small (Green Flag) park, TWICE A DAY in the
summer holidays. ;-(


If it keeps being picked up, it'll keep being dumped.

That's a good idea / point.

I wonder if they would do an experiment and *not* pick up any rubbish
for a week and see what happens?

There are people who will call / write in and complain to the Council
if just one litter pick round is missed so I'm guessing they would go
spare with a weeks worth?

And if it wasn't actually up to everyone's knees, would the litterers
simply use it as an excuse to litter more freely?

For sure. It'll just keep getting dirtier for a while. But then the outcry will be such that a percentage of people will be ready to pounce/snitch on litterers. Then organise a volunteer cleanup crew.


I would be up for more signs reminding people that it was *their* park
(simply being maintained by the Council on behalf of the people of the
borough) and so they might respect their space by not littering etc
but again, that might make some people worse (If it's mine I can
litter it if I want).

The problem is largely people that have no respect for anything or anyone. They don't care.


Providing more bins is a good solution to those who might use them
(and keep an eye on their kids dropping litter) or they will be abused
(to an even greater degree) by people clearing their cars out into the
park bins.

Many don't see / read the (many) closing time signs (meaning they get
locked in and getting the Park Guards out to let them out) so I'm
guessing they wouldn't see the litter bins / signs either. ;-(

so what. Make it difficult for them to find the guards & they'll learn not to do that next time. Give the guards jacket mounted cameras & fine or ban people (a worm of cans in itself).


They even stand by the signs suggesting people didn't feed the
wildfowl bread (and why), emptying a whole loaf into the pond.

maybe they don't agree.

I thin they may need to have some sort of pass where you have to read,
agree to and sign a declaration agreeing to the terms of the park
before they are allowed entry, then they couldn't say they 'didn't
realise' etc.

they agree to clearly displayed terms anyway. Let them agree to being fined.

Many seem to work on the basis it's easier to seek forgiveness than
permission ... ;-(

Cheers, T i m