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rbowman

On 01/18/2020 11:21 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 11:08:28 -0700, rbowman
wrote:

On 01/17/2020 09:27 PM, wrote:
70s for me (LA and Frisco) but I have been to California a couple
times since. I got off the plane and drove out of town for 2 hours
immediately. Once you get away from the coast, California is OK.

Quite a few states have that problem. Upstate NY isn't Sodom on the
Hudson, western Massachusetts isn't Boston, even New Jersey isn't bad
when you get away from Newark and so forth.

I spent time in Kingston and Endicott. I understand that. They still
have some silly laws. Same with Mass and NJ.

That's the problem with the blue state cities wagging the dog.

I've got a little different definition of upstate NY and it doesn't
include Kingston or the Southern Tier. It starts at the Federal dam on
the Hudson at Troy. Gillibrand lied her way into a seat in the 20th
district but once she clawed her way into the Senate her true colors
came out.