"newshound" wrote in message
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On 16/01/2020 18:03, Andy Burns wrote:
Jethro_uk wrote:

Chris Hogg wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Most industrial-scale hydrogen production seems to be steam reforming
of
natural gas, i.e. more or less methane, split the four hydrogens from
the carbon

By that method, the production of 1 ton of hydrogen generates 9-12 tons
of carbon dioxide

Whatever happened to hydrolysis ?

Twice as expensive?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis_of_water#Efficiency

Yes, if you don't count the externality.

I've been wondering for 20 years or more what is so difficult about a real
carbon tax.

There is no point until it can be established that carbon matters.

(Ok, there already is one on road fuel). It even seems like something that
you might be able to get international agreement on,

No chance with the detail of how it is implemented.

We cant even do that on how company income tax.

instead of all this pussyfooting around about targets.

Double or triple the cost of coal, oil, and gas and all of a sudden
nuclear and renewables start to make real sense.

They make sense without doing that and it makes
no sense to cripple the economys that way.

And you get a strong incentive for electric commercial as well as private
vehicles.

Pity about the massive economic downsides
of those with commercial vehicles.