On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 11:56:24 -0800 (PST), trader_4
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On Friday, December 20, 2019 at 10:44:33 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 07:20:03 -0800 (PST), trader_4
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On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 2:53:35 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 07:43:40 -0800 (PST), trader_4
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On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 2:56:37 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 05:02:28 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 18/12/2019 20:44, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 11:13:52 -0500, Bob wrote:

On 12/18/19 10:23 AM, Bod wrote:
Any other country would regard 45 school shootings in one year to be
horrendous. Nearly one a day.
I can only recall the UK having just 2 in its history.

The US has the weakest gun laws in the developed world.

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Bod


It is as horrendous as your acid attacks.

There's your "yes but" bull**** defense again.
Yhe UK is not having weekly deadly attacks on multiple school children
in their schools - whether by gun, acid, knife or sarin gas doesn't
matter. It is a DISEASE in the USA - and sadly, GUNS, and in
particular automatic "assault" weapons which have NO legitimate use -
they are not hunting rifles - they are designed for one purpose, and
one purpose only - to kill people

Well put.
The "weekly attacks" are thugs in school being thugs. Some of our
schools are in combat zones. Kids in school and people outside those
schools carry guns and shoot each other.

As if that's acceptable and normal.

Crime is a problem in general for some neighborhoods and some
demographics. In Ft Myers it was announced that virtually all of the
murders occurred in an area where 1% of the population lives. We seem
to have a problem dealing with that but it doesn't mean we have to
restrict the rights of the 99% because 1% can't stop being savages.



Yes, I know. You need to be able to buy your guns, just like you buy
your Bud and cigarettes. Just walk in and buy whatever you want,
no matter if you're being treated for mental illness, have ten arrests
or are a drug addict. No time for a permit process to check any of
that, it has to be just like buying beer.


Since most of the murders are by people who don't buy their guns from
a dealer, I am not sure what your law does.

Yes you do, you just won't admit it. It stops a guy like Cruz from walking
into Dicks and buying guns like they were beer. And almost every one of the
most lethal mass shootings, at the top of the news, ie where six to 50
where killed, were by murderers who bought their guns legally, ie from
a gun store. Cruz, Orlando, Las Vegas, Ohio, TX, Charleston, etc.



You have cited one guy and the fantasy that the cops might have kept
him from buying a gun. Bull****.
Cruz could have easily gone to another part of the state and bought
one. The local cops may have had a hunch he had a problem but it
didn't make it into a criminal record.




The ones who do these mass
shootings have no problem passing background checks.

That's a lie and you know it. Cruz, the Parkland FL school shooter
(you know, your state), would never have passed a real background
check. The police had plenty right there, in their own files, to
deny the permit. Same with the Ohio shooter and many others.


Says you



You just said
that a day or so ago yourself.

I never said any such thing. Confused again? I have said they easily
passed the very minimal background check we have, the NICS. Which is
why you would think reasonable people could agree that we need a uniform,
reasonable, real background check, conducted by the local police,
before anyone can go buy a gun.


Your fantasy that the local cops can violate HIPAA is ludicrous

Another lie. I've said many times that here in NJ, the permit includes
a statement waving health care privacy rights and allowing the police
to access them. That would be the model that all states should adopt
or that the feds should pass into law across the country. But old
men and the NRA are in the way.


There would be no second amendment if it wasn't for the NRA.

and
your "Dicks" story is bull****. Cruz did not get his AR from Dick.

It's not BS, I said that Cruz bought guns at Dick, he did in fact
but at least one there. But thanks for helping my case. Upon more
investigation, Cruz actually BOUGHT TEN GUNS, ALL LEGALLY. And whether he
bought them at one gun store or another makes no difference,
no permit is required. Great gun regulation you have there in FL.
A guy with 21 police visits to his house for trouble, expelled from
school for trouble, known to the police to have mental health problems
and being under treatment, bought ten guns legally in FL!
And about this, you're bragging?

Just stating facts.