"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Monday, 2 December 2019 17:11:43 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Monday, 2 December 2019 15:02:25 UTC, AnthonyL wrote:
On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 03:58:44 -0800 (PST), whisky-dave
wrote:

On Saturday, 30 November 2019 11:46:44 UTC, tim... wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Friday, 22 November 2019 12:07:25 UTC,
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On Friday, 22 November 2019 11:53:57 UTC, whisky-dave wrote:
I guess we'll just have to wait for finger print access to
such
things,
should be too long, suprised I haven't seen such a thing on
dragons
den.


I believe that fingerprint readers can be fooled with either a
latex
impression or a dead finger.

Some devices can the cheaper ones. But why are we seucuring the
door
from
others is the important thing here, and it;s not like no one has
ever
gained access without the correct key to any place, it;s just
what
effort
you need to take to eliminate such a thing and in most cases I
doubt
many
people carry a dead finger around with them, or have access to
the
latex
and a suitable finger.
Face recognicion is another option, I've heard in the USA they
are
looking
into guns that can only be fired after face recogniction has been
used.

implementing "owner" recognition for gun triggering has been
considered by
military for at least 20 years.

But only recently had the technology become cheap enough and small
enough.


It all fails to solve the scenario of what happens if trouper A
needs
to
"borrow" the gun of (dead/incapacitated) Trooper B in hurry, in a
battlefield scenario

No it doesn't.
It just needs a little thought like dual access bank accounts.
But it does depend on what you mean by in a hurry.

I can se NO reason why a face or finger print must only be for ONE
person / ONE gun.
You could have everyone in the platoon have their face recorded as ID
for every gun.
At the very least you could have a 4 digit number override, and
everyone
in theat platoon get the 4 digit code for the day/week.
At least 5 of my friends know my 4 digit code for my ipad which is
the
same for my TV box.

I'm betting even harry could design a systenm where every gun can be
operated by anyone with a white skin, but if someoen with a black
skin
picks it up it won't work.
Do you really think it's beyond us to design a gun activation
systemn
that can be operated by more than one face or one finger print ?


No, the real problem is designing a system that reliably can only be
operated by one face or one finger print aiui.

It's not that difficult

Yeah works fine with the best iphones,

and can be customised to an individual doing something specific but
unkown
to another.

Ypou could have it GPS tracked to easring or locking it if it falls in
to
the wrong hands or face.

That doesnt work reliably inside big buildings and thats what you need
with the cops etc.

You'd have a localised system for that,

Not possible to organise that in every place
a terrorist or armed holdup can happen.

but you were talking about the military previosuly.

In fact more likely to be needed with armed cops.