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In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 21 Oct 2019 21:59:03 +0100, Robert
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On 21/10/2019 20:54, Rod Speed wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote
Why can't I find a heat pump with a good SEER rating? The USA has
a
law stating 13 minimum. Yet here in the UK, I looked at Panasonic
and
they're all 7 to 11!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Season...ficiency_ratio
Which suggests that the seasonal weighting parameters used in the
US
,
Europe and possibly UK are all different which will give very
different
figures.

So if he compared the EERs, he'd get a fair comparison between those
sold in the US and UK?

Does the US have a regulation on minimum EER?

Presumably you mean the UK. No they don't.

Presumably because we don't use AC much.

Yeah, likely.

Once they take over for heating, we'll no doubt get something.

In the EU anyway. Less clear with the UK. The UK
isnt so keen on mandated minimum efficiencys.
Most obviously with the stupid EU mandate with
vacuum cleaners.

Not sure when that came into effect, but I know someone with a 2kW
vacuum
cleaner that she bought only about 5 years ago.

It was well after that.

You could always get this, are they getting around it by calling it
industrial? Rather like people still get incandescant bulbs by buying
"rough service" bulbs:
https://www.directvacuums.co.uk/vipe...m-cleaner.html

Why on earth would you limit something that uses about 0.0000001% of the
world's electricity?

And when its so variable time of day wise so it
doesn't even affect the peak power demand.

Lie I said barking mad.

It's all that weird food they eat on the continent.

It's as daft as hosepipe bans.

That's not quite so bad given that a surprising
percentage of household water usage is to
water stupid lawns and gardens.

But household water usage is 5%, 95% is industrial.

Gotta cite for that ? Cant find that with a quick look.

http://www.unesco.org/new/fileadmin/...Figure_8.3.pdf

Why bother to save a small part of the 5%?

Don't believe its that low.

A few towns of ours are currently having
to have their entire water supply brought
in in ****ing great tanker trucks. Makes no
sense to be tipping that on the ground.

I pay for my water, I expect it to be delivered.

Doesn't matter what you expect. You don't get to decide policy.

If I pay for something, I want to get it, or I stop paying for it.

Any shortages are the problem of the supplier. Build more dams ffs.

The problem isnt the number of dams.
Building more dams wouldn't fix the
problem when there isnt enough rain
and would increase the cost of water.

Double the dams, double the amount of water caught before it just flows into the sea unused.

It's not often we run low on water in the UK,

Sure, but it does happen at times even
tho the place is usually very soggy.

but when we do, they ban hosepipes, despite domestic water use being
only 5%, the rest is commercial.

That's not actually true with non industrial towns.

Irrelevant,

Nope.

water is transmitted long distances through pipes.

There are few industrial towns left anymore in the UK.

There is industry somewhere, using that 95%, as per the link earlier.

I just use one anyway then say I didn't know about the ban (which I
usually don't until someone tells me as I don't read newspapers).

Doesn't work here, we have street signs about the bans.

And if you haven't left your house that week?

There arent enough to havent to matter. Presumably
those who havent will get told by their neighbours if
they try watering their lawns when that usually soggy
little island doesn't have a big surplus of water.

Like I listen to my nosy neighbours.

Or just fill a watering can with a hosepipe the use that. I ****ed off
a
neighbour once by walking around the garden using a watering can with
the hose in it refilling it. She said "you're flouting the law!"

She's right and that's why she poisoned the cats.

She's a moron and who poisoned what cats?

She poisoned your cats when you ****ed her off.

I have no evidence that anyone has ever poisoned any of my cats. A couple went missing, one was run over, but none have ever been poisoned.