On Sun, 22 Sep 2019 11:05:36 +0000, Spike
wrote:
On 22/09/2019 00:47, T i m wrote:
On 21 Sep 2019 15:06:30 +0000, Spike wrote:
On 21/09/2019 10:39, T i m wrote:
On 21 Sep 2019 09:58:38 +0000, Spike wrote:
On 18/09/2019 09:36, T i m wrote:
We weren't ready because the majority (the 2/3rds that didn't vote to
Leave) didn't have a reason to.
What a silly argument.
Only if you aren't looking at it from the bigger picture.
And that's a silly argument as well.
In your opinion of course ... and you are?
Perhaps you'd care to describe this 'bigger picture' that you have
suddenly introduced to deflect attention from your previous silly argument.
Not suddenly introduced, it's been there all the time and was
considered by some of us at the time of the referendum poll.
I'll not bother explaining it all again as the chances are you still
wouldn't get it.
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You haven't explained any such thing as a 'position', so there is
nothing to 'understand'
I have, several times, sorry it whooshed you.
What such a question doesn't cover is those who might prefer an ice
lolly or just a cold drink.
Part of managing democracy is asking the right questions to the right
people and ensuring enough of them agree to any *change* that doesn't
have a very reasonable predicted outcome for 'most people'.
Is it?
Of course.
Christ on a bike.
I thought it was a car? Wasn't he 'heard on the street in his
Triumph'?
Who are 'the right people'?
Well, those who weren't given the option to have their say then but
are going to have to suffer any negative outcomes for the longest
period (for one group).
MP's have a duty of care to ensure we don't hurt ourselves, like if
50%+1 want crocodiles in all local swimming pools.
MPs have a duty to implement the voters choice, not some made-up fantasy
of yours.
Nope, BS. Shame you actually believe yourself.
What a strange world-view you have -
Oh the irony.
we can vote, but only if we are
'the right people' who have been asked 'the right questions' and
therefore 'ensuring' any change beforehand.
See above. Every day a school day for you eh. ;-)
That sounds remarkably like
the Soviet system.
Only because you didn't understand the scenario, because you aren't
able to.
We were going along a road that whilst may have had a few bends, was
generally straight and we all had a reasonable idea about what
tomorrow would be like.
Then, a tiny minority of people made the statement that if we turned
of that road, 90 degrees, we would all have better lives, without
anyone actually knowing if that was true or even likely. In fact, some
scouts that looked suggested that it might be a touch of the grass
being greener and could actually just be weed on a stagnant ford.
So, how many rules, regulations, directives, and other imperatives have
been imposed on the UK by the EU since the second referendum vote?
Pass ... but none that have affected 'most people' enough to even have
them on their radar and certainly not enough to lose loads of money
over.
You don't know what has been imposed on you, but can say that 'none' has
affected anyone and no-one has lost shedloads of money?
I never said any such thing. Have you looked at this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally%E2%80%93Anne_test
All I have said is that 'most people' haven't been made worse off by
our membership of the EU, more likely the opposite in fact. And not
just as a function of us having the 4th highest GDP but a quality of
life that many around the world are envious off and want for
themselves, irrespective of how you personally consider it.
Laughable. The current emissions/global warming.climate change agenda
has been foisted on us at least in part by the EU,
Yet 'we' are leading the way apparently?
That's affecting
everyone negatively and costing them loads of cash. Have you been asleep
these past few years?
I have had some sleep recently, perhaps you should as well to help you
think clearer?
Did *you* see them all coming?
I'm not the one predicting the future, it's the Brexiteers.
No, quite the opposite. You're avoiding the future by sticking your head
in a bucket.
How can we 'avoid the future'. Talk about stupid comments. Many of the
Remainers were going along the 'better the devil you know' direction
which is *exactly* the opposite of how you see it.
Do you always put forward such silly arguments?
Why are you so selfish?
Why are you so dim?
It's not me that is demonstrating a selfish / closed minded attitude
here.
Aren't you one of 'the right people'?
Funnily enough, no, I'm not. I didn't vote in the poll because unlike
you, I don't have a crystal ball so couldn't be *sure* that leaving
the EU would be better for 'most people'.
Cheers, T i m