nightjar wrote
Rod Speed wrote
nightjar wrote
Rod Speed wrote
nightjar wrote
Rod Speed wrote
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Not with the biggest project fear lies that all the planes wont be
able to fly the day after,

Long since dispelled by the EU stating that British aircraft would be
allowed into their airspace, even if there were a no deal Brexit.

They never said that in the runup to the referendum.

Then, nobody thought that anybody would be stupid enough to contemplate a
no deal Brexit.

Another bare faced lie. Farage alone had said that repeatedly
and project fear ran that lie about aircraft not being able to
fly outside the UK to the EU after brexit and the EU was free
to deny that lie when that claim was made.

Still one of the original project fear bare
faced lies in the runup to the referendum.

It was a completely accurate statement of international aviation law.

Bull**** it was when the UK had been flying
to europe ever since flying was invented.

From the 1940s onwards, we have had to have agreements with any of the
other signatories to the ICAO Convention to fly scheduled services into or
over their territories.

And the UK had that before it entered the EEC, so that wasnt
going to prevent aircraft flying to the EU after a no deal brexit.

Aircraft on scheduled flights have to have permission to fly into or
over the territory of another country. ICAO Convention, Part I, Chapter
II, Article 6.

Pity that there is no reason for that to stop when the UK leaves the EU.

Apart from that being what international aviation law states.

It says nothing of the sort when current arrangements between
countrys change. There are countless examples of current arrangements
changing like with HongKong and various other countrys like Malaysia
and Czechoslovakia breaking up and colonys getting independence
where current arrangements on aircraft flying continued regardless.

It was always just another project fear bare faced lie given
that that would also so EU aircraft with one hell of a problem
with flights to the USA and Canada etc also being affected.

There was never any possibility that they would all stop with a no deal
brexit.

At present, that permission is inherent in our membership of the EU.

More lies given that that was true even before the UK joined the EEC.

When we had specific permissions from the various EEC countries, which
were overwritten by the treaty of accession.

Thats another lie too.

Without a deal or the unilateral declaration given by the EU, British
aircraft would not have been allowed into EU airspace from the Brexit
date.

More project fear lies....

As I said, it is a simple statement of international aviation law.

Its actually just another bare faced lie given that EU aircraft
would also be affected, so the EU would always have to allow
the current arrangements to continue after a no deal brexit.

But those arseholes allowed the lie to be spewed
until long after the referendum result was known,
to try to monster the UK into a BRINO.

There is a number of, mostly African, countries that do not have
permission to fly scheduled flights into UK airspace.

Because of the air safety record of those countrys.
Not going to happen with a no deal brexit.