On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 5:05:57 PM UTC-4, wrote:
Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 9/12/2019 10:35 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 10:15:49 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 9/12/2019 6:40 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 6:06:43 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
On 9/11/19 2:16 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

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I asked how it is that Mr. T and others know that life begins at
conception. How do they know that their God doesn't insert a soul
making it human at 8 weeks or at birth? To me, it seems very logical
that a few cells have no soul, they aren't a human being. Where along
the continuum it becomes a human, IDK.

You won't get an answer because they can't give one. You can believe
anything you want, but that does not make it so.

You can make arguments for other stages of development such as
heartbeat, ability to live outside, etc, but the original mass of tissue
is a hard one to prove.

Not really. The "immoral soul" referred to frequently by the ancients
and religious fanatics is your genome so in fact it's present in every
cell of your body and at conception the new life is formed from
approximately 50% of the female and 50% of the male plus (or less)
"mutations de novo" (primarily errors of transcription).

I don't know if this is the exact argument the anti-abortion people
make but it won't help them. Abortion, marriage, contraception,
euthanasia, etc are societal concepts that cannot be decided by
science (in this case, cellular biology). It's simply a matter of what
society allows or encourages. Unfortunately there's a heavy reliance
on emotion and sometimes personal experience.

I thought this topic had something to do with explosive devices buried
in the ground and detonated by someone accidentally treading on them
but then I also thought that the entire group was about home repair.
Don't stop though. Some of the off topic posts particularly by
HomeGuy, Trader, and Fretwell are quite interesting.

BTW has anyone noticed that the Australian troll seems to have
disappeared?



Shhhhh. That's a very good thing.