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On 08/09/2019 13:03, dennis@home wrote:
On 07/09/2019 20:09, Brian Reay wrote:
On 07/09/2019 19:54, tim... wrote:


"Tim Lamb" wrote in message
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In message , The Natural Philosopher
writes
On 07/09/2019 16:16, Keema's Nan wrote:
On 7 Sep 2019, Dave Plowman (News) wrote
(in article ):

In ,
Omega * wrote:
But what is equally as bad is the religion of Brexiteers -
seeking to
impose their views on others.

Yes, but we had GOD on our side, he saw to it we had a million
and a
half votes more than the Remainers!

Your god appears rather lacking in power. A decent one would have
given
you a big majority of those entitled to vote. Lets say all those
who voted
voting leave. Very very few would argue about 2/3rds of those
entitled to
vote being in favour or whatever.
*And if you had a decent honest remain god, it would have said
Ok, we lost.
Lets do the gentlemanly thing and let the winners have their way.
*Brexiteers are still waiting for the virtue signalling, holier
than thou,
sanctimonious remainers to defer to a democratic majority.

And that is the fundamentally scary thing: the WHOLE establishment
media and parliament have united to simply deny that a mjority
voted to leave by any means possible.

They are in effect denying the validity of democracy,
That means we are in effect living in a dictatorship by no one we
know manipulating politicians and media behind the scenes.

It's not about Brexit now. It's about democracy itself.

Or possibly that the Irish border issue did not concern the
brexiteer vote and that no deal was not on the ballot paper.

No amount of huffing and puffing is going to convince the EU that no
deal was ever a realistic threat.

Sort out the Ireland issue and settle for the rest of May's deal.

but there is no May deal without the current Irish solution


A solution suggests there is a problem.

The Irish problem is entirely fabricated by the EU / Ireland. At no
point has the UK suggested a hard border. It is Ireland which is
building border check points, not the UK.

The Irish see this as a way to try and grab NI plus, of course, fear
they will have to contribute to the EU gravy train when the* UK stops.


Or they just don't believe the suggested alternatives will work.

There isn't much evidence to suggest they will or that the brexiteers
have done anything that might make it work.

It's typical brexteering.. blame it on the EU.
Brexiteers blame everything on the EU, it can't possibly be that they
don't have a clue.


Are you suggesting the backstop isn't of the EU's creation?

No one else has suggested a hard border in the island of Ireland. The
issue is there isn't going to be one in the Irish Sea between NI and the
rest of the UK, either by agreement, or by no agreement.