In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 30 Aug 2019 13:37:27 +0100, Bod
wrote:

On 30/08/2019 12:39, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 6:56:11 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
On 30/08/2019 11:40, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 12:37:11 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
In recent years much has been written about the rise of the
“nones”—people who check the box for “none” on surveys of religious
affiliation. A 2013 Harris Poll of 2,250 American adults, for example,
found that 23 percent of all Americans have forsaken religion
altogether. A 2015 Pew Research Center poll reported that 34 to 36
percent of millennials (those born after 1980) are nones and
corroborated the 23 percent figure, adding that this was a dramatic
increase from 2007, when only 16 percent of Americans said they were
affiliated with no religion. In raw numbers, this translates to an
increase from 36.6 million to 55.8 million nones.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ion-is-rising/
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Bod

That doesn't necessarily mean they don't believe in God. Just that they
don't belong to a church.

Cindy Hamilton

I assume then, that a lot of the "not affliated to any religion"
probably means they believe in a deist god....yes?

Yes.

No.

They might also mean they believe in a theist god.

Cindy Hamilton

In that case, a deist god is the same as no god, inasmuch that a
deist god does not intervene at all. It supposedly just creates the
world and then lets Earthlings sort themselves out.

You fed us the notion that the probable alternative was a deist god,
when in fact there is another alternative and no one here is able to
know which choice is more likely. He might know what he thinks and
what the people in his family think, but we don't know what most people
"probably mean" when they say not affiliated.

AIUI a theist god is one who directs the world, as does God in the 3
"Abrahamic" religions, but is not identified as that god. Even if I'm
wrong about part of this, it's certainly easily possible to believe in
the god I just described and to do so without being affiliated to any
religion.

Consciously or not, Bod, you set this up a couple posts ago with your
assumption, so that you would win the argument later on.