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In recent years much has been written about the rise of the
nonespeople who check the box for none on surveys of religious
affiliation. A 2013 Harris Poll of 2,250 American adults, for example,
found that 23 percent of all Americans have forsaken religion
altogether. A 2015 Pew Research Center poll reported that 34 to 36
percent of millennials (those born after 1980) are nones and
corroborated the 23 percent figure, adding that this was a dramatic
increase from 2007, when only 16 percent of Americans said they were
affiliated with no religion. In raw numbers, this translates to an
increase from 36.6 million to 55.8 million nones.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ion-is-rising/
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In recent years much has been written about the rise of the nonespeople who check the box for none on surveys of religious affiliation. A 2013 Harris Poll of 2,250 American adults, for example, found that 23 percent of all Americans have forsaken
religion altogether. A 2015 Pew Research Center poll reported that 34 to 36 percent of millennials (those born after 1980) are nones and corroborated the 23 percent figure, adding that this was a dramatic increase from 2007, when only 16 percent of
Americans said they were affiliated with no religion. In raw numbers, this translates to an increase from 36.6 million to 55.8 million nones.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ion-is-rising/



Which religion is the official religion?
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In recent years much has been written about the rise of the
nonespeople who check the box for none on surveys of religious
affiliation. A 2013 Harris Poll of 2,250 American adults, for example,
found that 23 percent of all Americans have forsaken religion
altogether. A 2015 Pew Research Center poll reported that 34 to 36
percent of millennials (those born after 1980) are nones and
corroborated the 23 percent figure, adding that this was a dramatic
increase from 2007, when only 16 percent of Americans said they were
affiliated with no religion. In raw numbers, this translates to an
increase from 36.6 million to 55.8 million nones.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ion-is-rising/
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That doesn't necessarily mean they don't believe in God. Just that they
don't belong to a church.

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On 30/08/2019 11:40, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 12:37:11 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
In recent years much has been written about the rise of the
nonespeople who check the box for none on surveys of religious
affiliation. A 2013 Harris Poll of 2,250 American adults, for example,
found that 23 percent of all Americans have forsaken religion
altogether. A 2015 Pew Research Center poll reported that 34 to 36
percent of millennials (those born after 1980) are nones and
corroborated the 23 percent figure, adding that this was a dramatic
increase from 2007, when only 16 percent of Americans said they were
affiliated with no religion. In raw numbers, this translates to an
increase from 36.6 million to 55.8 million nones.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ion-is-rising/
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That doesn't necessarily mean they don't believe in God. Just that they
don't belong to a church.

Cindy Hamilton

I assume then, that a lot of the "not affliated to any religion"

probably means they believe in a deist god....yes?

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On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 6:56:11 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
On 30/08/2019 11:40, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 12:37:11 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
In recent years much has been written about the rise of the
nonespeople who check the box for none on surveys of religious
affiliation. A 2013 Harris Poll of 2,250 American adults, for example,
found that 23 percent of all Americans have forsaken religion
altogether. A 2015 Pew Research Center poll reported that 34 to 36
percent of millennials (those born after 1980) are nones and
corroborated the 23 percent figure, adding that this was a dramatic
increase from 2007, when only 16 percent of Americans said they were
affiliated with no religion. In raw numbers, this translates to an
increase from 36.6 million to 55.8 million nones.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ion-is-rising/
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That doesn't necessarily mean they don't believe in God. Just that they
don't belong to a church.

Cindy Hamilton

I assume then, that a lot of the "not affliated to any religion"

probably means they believe in a deist god....yes?


Yes.

Cindy Hamilton



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On 30/08/2019 12:39, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 6:56:11 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
On 30/08/2019 11:40, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 12:37:11 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
In recent years much has been written about the rise of the
nonespeople who check the box for none on surveys of religious
affiliation. A 2013 Harris Poll of 2,250 American adults, for example,
found that 23 percent of all Americans have forsaken religion
altogether. A 2015 Pew Research Center poll reported that 34 to 36
percent of millennials (those born after 1980) are nones and
corroborated the 23 percent figure, adding that this was a dramatic
increase from 2007, when only 16 percent of Americans said they were
affiliated with no religion. In raw numbers, this translates to an
increase from 36.6 million to 55.8 million nones.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ion-is-rising/
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Bod

That doesn't necessarily mean they don't believe in God. Just that they
don't belong to a church.

Cindy Hamilton

I assume then, that a lot of the "not affliated to any religion"

probably means they believe in a deist god....yes?


Yes.

Cindy Hamilton

In that case, a deist god is the same as no god, inasmuch that a

deist god does not intervene at all. It supposedly just creates the
world and then lets Earthlings sort themselves out.

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On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 8:37:31 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
On 30/08/2019 12:39, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 6:56:11 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
On 30/08/2019 11:40, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 12:37:11 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
In recent years much has been written about the rise of the
nonespeople who check the box for none on surveys of religious
affiliation. A 2013 Harris Poll of 2,250 American adults, for example,
found that 23 percent of all Americans have forsaken religion
altogether. A 2015 Pew Research Center poll reported that 34 to 36
percent of millennials (those born after 1980) are nones and
corroborated the 23 percent figure, adding that this was a dramatic
increase from 2007, when only 16 percent of Americans said they were
affiliated with no religion. In raw numbers, this translates to an
increase from 36.6 million to 55.8 million nones.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ion-is-rising/
--
Bod

That doesn't necessarily mean they don't believe in God. Just that they
don't belong to a church.

Cindy Hamilton

I assume then, that a lot of the "not affliated to any religion"
probably means they believe in a deist god....yes?


Yes.

Cindy Hamilton

In that case, a deist god is the same as no god, inasmuch that a

deist god does not intervene at all. It supposedly just creates the
world and then lets Earthlings sort themselves out.

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I think what Cindy is saying is if you want to know if people believe in
God or not, then that's the question you need to ask. And it would also
be helpful to see the actual survey question and choices. Just because
someone is not 'affiliated' with any church, doesn't mean that they don't
believe in god, deist or otherwise. There are plenty of people who believe,
but haven't been to church in decades. How would they respond? Choose
the church they were affiliated with at birth, when they were a kid?
Or say no affiliation. A survey should include a choice for agnostics too..



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On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 05:37:07 +0100, Bod wrote:

In recent years much has been written about the rise of the
nonespeople who check the box for none on surveys of religious
affiliation. A 2013 Harris Poll of 2,250 American adults, for example,
found that 23 percent of all Americans have forsaken religion
altogether. A 2015 Pew Research Center poll reported that 34 to 36
percent of millennials (those born after 1980) are nones and
corroborated the 23 percent figure, adding that this was a dramatic
increase from 2007, when only 16 percent of Americans said they were
affiliated with no religion. In raw numbers, this translates to an
increase from 36.6 million to 55.8 million nones.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ion-is-rising/


The problem is the number of people who think anyone with any kind of
spiritual belief at all are morons. Those are the ones who cost
democrats elections.
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On 30/08/2019 13:56, trader_4 wrote:
On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 8:37:31 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
On 30/08/2019 12:39, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 6:56:11 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
On 30/08/2019 11:40, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 12:37:11 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
In recent years much has been written about the rise of the
nonespeople who check the box for none on surveys of religious
affiliation. A 2013 Harris Poll of 2,250 American adults, for example,
found that 23 percent of all Americans have forsaken religion
altogether. A 2015 Pew Research Center poll reported that 34 to 36
percent of millennials (those born after 1980) are nones and
corroborated the 23 percent figure, adding that this was a dramatic
increase from 2007, when only 16 percent of Americans said they were
affiliated with no religion. In raw numbers, this translates to an
increase from 36.6 million to 55.8 million nones.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ion-is-rising/
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That doesn't necessarily mean they don't believe in God. Just that they
don't belong to a church.

Cindy Hamilton

I assume then, that a lot of the "not affliated to any religion"
probably means they believe in a deist god....yes?

Yes.

Cindy Hamilton

In that case, a deist god is the same as no god, inasmuch that a

deist god does not intervene at all. It supposedly just creates the
world and then lets Earthlings sort themselves out.

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I think what Cindy is saying is if you want to know if people believe in
God or not, then that's the question you need to ask. And it would also
be helpful to see the actual survey question and choices. Just because
someone is not 'affiliated' with any church, doesn't mean that they don't
believe in god, deist or otherwise. There are plenty of people who believe,
but haven't been to church in decades. How would they respond? Choose
the church they were affiliated with at birth, when they were a kid?
Or say no affiliation. A survey should include a choice for agnostics too.


Good points.



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On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 05:37:07 +0100, Bod wrote:

In recent years much has been written about the rise of the
nonespeople who check the box for none on surveys of religious
affiliation. A 2013 Harris Poll of 2,250 American adults, for example,
found that 23 percent of all Americans have forsaken religion
altogether. A 2015 Pew Research Center poll reported that 34 to 36
percent of millennials (those born after 1980) are nones and
corroborated the 23 percent figure, adding that this was a dramatic
increase from 2007, when only 16 percent of Americans said they were
affiliated with no religion. In raw numbers, this translates to an
increase from 36.6 million to 55.8 million nones.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ion-is-rising/


The problem is the number of people who think anyone with any kind of
spiritual belief at all are morons. Those are the ones who cost
democrats elections.


The Democrats seem to be doing OK from what I see. In fact, they are
winning. Is the country in a more conservative place today than it
was 30 years ago? Or even ten years ago? There have been cycles,
where a conservative, eg Reagan, can slow the tide or push it back
some, but big govt keeps getting bigger, more lib programs, now they
are going for open borders and winning that too. How many sanctuary
cities and states did we have ten years ago? How many do we have now?
What has the new wonder that was going to fix everything accomplished?
Other than two SC justices, which is a very good thing, very little at all.
In fact, he's made govt much bigger, greatly increased spending and
blown out the deficits. That sounds like a Democrat to me.



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I think what Cindy is saying is if you want to know if people believe in
God or not, then that's the question you need to ask.


Then you'd need to say which God you're talking about, or maybe it's not
"God" but "god" (the WORD "god" rather than the proper name of a
particular one).

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On 30/08/2019 11:40, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 12:37:11 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
In recent years much has been written about the rise of the
nonespeople who check the box for none on surveys of religious
affiliation. A 2013 Harris Poll of 2,250 American adults, for example,
found that 23 percent of all Americans have forsaken religion
altogether. A 2015 Pew Research Center poll reported that 34 to 36
percent of millennials (those born after 1980) are nones and
corroborated the 23 percent figure, adding that this was a dramatic
increase from 2007, when only 16 percent of Americans said they were
affiliated with no religion. In raw numbers, this translates to an
increase from 36.6 million to 55.8 million nones.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ion-is-rising/
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That doesn't necessarily mean they don't believe in God. Just that they
don't belong to a church.

Cindy Hamilton

I assume then, that a lot of the "not affliated to any religion"

probably means they believe in a deist god....yes?


Some. Not sure if that's a lot or not.

A lot of people who were affiliated, with a church, congregation,
religion, are not, depending on their definition of "affiliated", after
they go away to college (expecially if they don't consider themselves to
still be living "at home", with their parents), and again, those who are
affiliated are often not after they move to another city for whatever
reason. Many join a congregation when their first kid is 2 or 3 or 6.
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In recent years much has been written about the rise of the
none people who check the box for none on surveys of religious
affiliation.


But that's racist.

It's racist to celebrate or have as your objective the elimination of
religion in the US population.

Have you seen any non-islamic muslims? Is that even a "thing" ?

You want diversity. You want moar and moar muslims, and they bring
their islam with them - a more repressive religion than christianity
is. How do you square that?

How do you reconcile the objective of trying to achieve a secular
society while "celebrating" diversity which includes islam? Answer that
(if you can)...
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On 08/30/2019 01:12 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
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I think what Cindy is saying is if you want to know if people believe in
God or not, then that's the question you need to ask.


Then you'd need to say which God you're talking about, or maybe it's not
"God" but "god" (the WORD "god" rather than the proper name of a
particular one).

[snip]


I'd go for Gods. Goddesses too. Before those middle Eastern religions
spread to god business was more inclusive.




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In recent years much has been written about
the rise of the none people who check the box
for none on surveys of religious affiliation.


But that's racist.


Nope, religionist at most.

It's racist to celebrate or have as your objective
the elimination of religion in the US population.


Nope, anti religionist at most.

Have you seen any non-islamic muslims?


Yep, most of the muslim sects say that about the others.

Is that even a "thing" ?


Yep.

You want diversity.


I'd prefer it if all the stupid god botherers all died, very unpleasantly.

You want moar and moar muslims,


Few poms/limeys do in fact want that. And its more, you illiterate hoon.

and they bring their islam with them


Some do, plenty don't.

a more repressive religion than christianity


That's very arguable given the crusades etc.

You don't see many muslims burning each other at the stake either.

is. How do you square that?


He triangulates with it. Utterly obscene, I agree.

How do you reconcile the objective of trying
to achieve a secular society while "celebrating"
diversity which includes islam?


That's more diversity, you stupid bigot.

Answer that (if you can)...

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Have you seen any non-islamic muslims?


Yep, most of the muslim sects say that about the others.


What kind of cock-eyed answer is that?

Are there any muslims that are athiests?

If you are a muslim, do you in fact follow the dictates of the koran and
obey sharia law?
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On 08/30/2019 01:12 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 8/30/19 7:56 AM, trader_4 wrote:

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I think what Cindy is saying is if you want to know if people believe in
God or not, then that's the question you need to ask.


Then you'd need to say which God you're talking about, or maybe it's not
"God" but "god" (the WORD "god" rather than the proper name of a
particular one).

[snip]


I'd go for Gods. Goddesses too. Before those middle Eastern religions
spread to god business was more inclusive.


I like the ones with big tits ;-)
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Have you seen any non-islamic muslims?


Yep, most of the muslim sects say that about the others.


What kind of cock-eyed answer is that?


You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag, bigot boy.

Are there any muslims that are athiests?


Corse there are.

If you are a muslim, do you in fact follow the dictates of the koran


Like that other collection of stupid fairy storys, it isnt even possible
to work out precisely what are the dictates of the koran.

and obey sharia law?


Ditto in spades.
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On 30/08/2019 12:39, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 6:56:11 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
On 30/08/2019 11:40, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 12:37:11 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
In recent years much has been written about the rise of the
nonespeople who check the box for none on surveys of religious
affiliation. A 2013 Harris Poll of 2,250 American adults, for example,
found that 23 percent of all Americans have forsaken religion
altogether. A 2015 Pew Research Center poll reported that 34 to 36
percent of millennials (those born after 1980) are nones and
corroborated the 23 percent figure, adding that this was a dramatic
increase from 2007, when only 16 percent of Americans said they were
affiliated with no religion. In raw numbers, this translates to an
increase from 36.6 million to 55.8 million nones.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ion-is-rising/
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That doesn't necessarily mean they don't believe in God. Just that they
don't belong to a church.

Cindy Hamilton

I assume then, that a lot of the "not affliated to any religion"
probably means they believe in a deist god....yes?


Yes.


No.

They might also mean they believe in a theist god.

Cindy Hamilton

In that case, a deist god is the same as no god, inasmuch that a

deist god does not intervene at all. It supposedly just creates the
world and then lets Earthlings sort themselves out.


You fed us the notion that the probable alternative was a deist god,
when in fact there is another alternative and no one here is able to
know which choice is more likely. He might know what he thinks and
what the people in his family think, but we don't know what most people
"probably mean" when they say not affiliated.

AIUI a theist god is one who directs the world, as does God in the 3
"Abrahamic" religions, but is not identified as that god. Even if I'm
wrong about part of this, it's certainly easily possible to believe in
the god I just described and to do so without being affiliated to any
religion.

Consciously or not, Bod, you set this up a couple posts ago with your
assumption, so that you would win the argument later on.

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On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 9:28:17 AM UTC-4, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 30 Aug 2019 13:37:27 +0100, Bod
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On 30/08/2019 12:39, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 6:56:11 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
On 30/08/2019 11:40, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 12:37:11 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
In recent years much has been written about the rise of the
nonespeople who check the box for none on surveys of religious
affiliation. A 2013 Harris Poll of 2,250 American adults, for example,
found that 23 percent of all Americans have forsaken religion
altogether. A 2015 Pew Research Center poll reported that 34 to 36
percent of millennials (those born after 1980) are nones and
corroborated the 23 percent figure, adding that this was a dramatic
increase from 2007, when only 16 percent of Americans said they were
affiliated with no religion. In raw numbers, this translates to an
increase from 36.6 million to 55.8 million nones.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ion-is-rising/
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That doesn't necessarily mean they don't believe in God. Just that they
don't belong to a church.

Cindy Hamilton

I assume then, that a lot of the "not affliated to any religion"
probably means they believe in a deist god....yes?

Yes.


No.

They might also mean they believe in a theist god.


I stand corrected. Else why would such people pray?

Cindy Hamilton
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On 30/08/2019 12:39, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 6:56:11 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
On 30/08/2019 11:40, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 12:37:11 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
In recent years much has been written about the rise of the
nonespeople who check the box for none on surveys of religious
affiliation. A 2013 Harris Poll of 2,250 American adults, for example,
found that 23 percent of all Americans have forsaken religion
altogether. A 2015 Pew Research Center poll reported that 34 to 36
percent of millennials (those born after 1980) are nones and
corroborated the 23 percent figure, adding that this was a dramatic
increase from 2007, when only 16 percent of Americans said they were
affiliated with no religion. In raw numbers, this translates to an
increase from 36.6 million to 55.8 million nones.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ion-is-rising/
--
Bod

That doesn't necessarily mean they don't believe in God. Just that they
don't belong to a church.

Cindy Hamilton

I assume then, that a lot of the "not affliated to any religion"
probably means they believe in a deist god....yes?

Yes.


No.

They might also mean they believe in a theist god.

Cindy Hamilton

In that case, a deist god is the same as no god, inasmuch that a

deist god does not intervene at all. It supposedly just creates the
world and then lets Earthlings sort themselves out.


You fed us the notion that the probable alternative was a deist god,
when in fact there is another alternative and no one here is able to
know which choice is more likely. He might know what he thinks and
what the people in his family think, but we don't know what most people
"probably mean" when they say not affiliated.

AIUI a theist god is one who directs the world, as does God in the 3
"Abrahamic" religions, but is not identified as that god. Even if I'm
wrong about part of this, it's certainly easily possible to believe in
the god I just described and to do so without being affiliated to any
religion.

Consciously or not, Bod, you set this up a couple posts ago with your
assumption, so that you would win the argument later on.

I don't post to win anything.


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Are there any muslims that are athiests?


Corse there are.


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Definition of Muslim
1 : an adherent of Islam


That's not the definition they use. Like you stupid
xtian, it has to be the correct sect, bigot boy.

History and Etymology for Muslim
Arabic muslim, literally, one who submits (to God)


But they accept that xtians and jews have the same
god and that most of those submit to that god.

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In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 31 Aug 2019 15:01:31 +0100, Bod
wrote:

On 31/08/2019 14:28, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 30 Aug 2019 13:37:27 +0100, Bod
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On 30/08/2019 12:39, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 6:56:11 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
On 30/08/2019 11:40, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 12:37:11 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
In recent years much has been written about the rise of the
nonespeople who check the box for none on surveys of religious
affiliation. A 2013 Harris Poll of 2,250 American adults, for example,
found that 23 percent of all Americans have forsaken religion
altogether. A 2015 Pew Research Center poll reported that 34 to 36
percent of millennials (those born after 1980) are nones and
corroborated the 23 percent figure, adding that this was a dramatic
increase from 2007, when only 16 percent of Americans said they were
affiliated with no religion. In raw numbers, this translates to an
increase from 36.6 million to 55.8 million nones.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ion-is-rising/
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That doesn't necessarily mean they don't believe in God. Just that they
don't belong to a church.

Cindy Hamilton

I assume then, that a lot of the "not affliated to any religion"
probably means they believe in a deist god....yes?

Yes.


No.

They might also mean they believe in a theist god.

Cindy Hamilton

In that case, a deist god is the same as no god, inasmuch that a
deist god does not intervene at all. It supposedly just creates the
world and then lets Earthlings sort themselves out.


You fed us the notion that the probable alternative was a deist god,
when in fact there is another alternative and no one here is able to
know which choice is more likely. He might know what he thinks and
what the people in his family think, but we don't know what most people
"probably mean" when they say not affiliated.

AIUI a theist god is one who directs the world, as does God in the 3
"Abrahamic" religions, but is not identified as that god. Even if I'm
wrong about part of this, it's certainly easily possible to believe in
the god I just described and to do so without being affiliated to any
religion.

Consciously or not, Bod, you set this up a couple posts ago with your
assumption, so that you would win the argument later on.

I don't post to win anything.


Okay, you didn't post to win anything.

But why not address the bigger issue?

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Definition of Muslim
1 : an adherent of Islam


That's not the definition they use. Like you stupid
xtian, it has to be the correct sect, bigot boy.


ONLY in your retarded senile head, senile Ozzie cretin!

History and Etymology for Muslim
Arabic muslim, literally, one who submits (to God)


But they accept that xtians and jews have the same
god and that most of those submit to that god.


What are you now blathering about, senile idiot?

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Rod Speed's non-response was just flushed down the usenet toilet.

Rod Speed therefore cedes the argument to me.

Thanks for playing Rod.
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Some gutless ****wit bigot child desperately cowering behind
Home Guy spewed just the **** you'd
expect from a desperately cowering gutless ****wit bigot child.
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FLUSH more troll**** from the stinking senile troll from Oz

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PLONK

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PLONK


Fat lot of good that will do you, gutless bigot boy.
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PLONK


Fat lot of good that will do you, gutless bigot boy.


What you mean, Usenet scum? You want to switch nyms again, you senile
cretin? Show us, and individual.net, how often you can do it! VBG

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Some gutless drug crazed drunken bigot desperately cowering behind
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PLONK


Fat lot of good that will do you, gutless bigot boy.


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PLONK


Fat lot of good that will do you, gutless bigot boy.


What you mean, Usenet scum? You want to start a nym-switching org again, you
senile cretin? Show us and your provider how often you can do it! VBG

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