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Default Florida stand your ground case conviction.

On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 07:18:46 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
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On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 7:40:59 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 15:19:10 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

chokehold set off a €ślethal cascade€ť of events that ended in the mans death


The lethal cascade was an asthma attack and cardiac arrest. A leg hold
would have likely produced the same result.


The MD that performed the autopsy says otherwise. You conveniently
left out the start of the lethal cascade, the chokehold.

€śIn my opinion, thats a chokehold,€ť Dr. Floriana Persechino, the medical examiner, said after video footage of the arrest was put on pause during the hearing. She said the chokehold would have been painful and constricted Garners airways, triggering €śa lethal cascade of events€ť that led to his death.

Using a green laser pointer, Persechino explained that the autopsy photographs showed a band of ruptured blood vessels in the muscles in the front of Garners neck, and said they were caused by pressure from Pantaleos forearm. "



Just the facts.






The politics made it homicide.


BS. The coroner ruled it a homicide.



I don't know why you guys pick the flimsiest cases to demonstrate
police misconduct when there are plenty of unarmed people shot
reaching for a wallet or cell phone.


What "you people" are you referring to? There are some police shootings
where a perp reached for something, didn't have a gun and the cops
shot them. Many the police were not held responsible for, eg it's
a dark alley, the perp reaches into his pants and the cop thinks he
saw a gun. Most of those the cop gets the benefit of the doubt
and I've supported them.
Very different than Pantaleo deliberately applying a chokehold that
NYC police have banned, that he knew he was not supposed to use,
in broad daylight, with three other cops there assisting in taking
Garner into custody. That went on for a minute or more, it was
initiated by Panaleo, who should have figured out what the correct
way to proceed was, he had plenty of time to do that and also
plenty of time to reconsider. The cop shootings you're talking
about were over in a second, it had to be a split second decision,
they thought the perp had a gun and was a lethal threat. Garner
had no gun, didn't reach for a gun, and presented no lethal threat.
That's the difference.



If nothing else, why was the sargent absolved of virtually all
responsibility when she was in charge of the scene, 5 feet away and
she did NOTHING to stop it? She didn't even lose a stripe.


I said from the beginning that probably isn't right. But there has been
very little reported about exactly where she was, whether it was clear
she saw what Panaleo was doing, etc. If it's clear she was close, that
she saw it, then yes, she should have received more than a loss of a
couple weeks vacation.


It was still nothing but a bow to the BLM movement, pure and simple.
The man died because he fought with the police and his own health
issues are what killed him. A healthy person would have been fine.

"The NYPDs top doctor determined that a chokehold was never used on
Eric Garner €” despite a ruling to that effect by the city medical
examiners office €” and he based it on a second video never publicly
released."
https://nypost.com/2019/04/04/new-video-of-eric-garners-death-used-as-evidence-in-case-against-daniel-pantaleo/



A politically appointed person serving at the pleasure of a left wing
police hating mayor said what she had to say. The Black supervisor in
charge of the scene and standing 5 feet away got away virtually
untouched in spite of her watching the whole thing and not making any
attempt to stop anything the cop did.